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    25?

    That's way too many.

    I don't think there are even 10 players from each of the test nations deserving of a central contract.

    I think Tait has a right to be a bit pissed off. There aren't 25 better players in Australia IMO, and there's nothing wrong with having someone like Tait for ODI's & T20.

    I'm all for boards control over a player if they are contracted, but CA are taking the michael stopping Tait form playing in the IPL knowing they were omitting him from the next contract list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivera213 View Post
    25?

    That's way too many.

    I don't think there are even 10 players from each of the test nations deserving of a central contract.

    I think Tait has a right to be a bit pissed off. There aren't 25 better players in Australia IMO, and there's nothing wrong with having someone like Tait for ODI's & T20.

    I'm all for boards control over a player if they are contracted, but CA are taking the michael stopping Tait form playing in the IPL knowing they were omitting him from the next contract list.
    The only way it's defensible I reckon is if he's still in future plans (say, for the next contract round) and CA is looking after its investment. Then you could look at his missing out as more of a furlough than a rejection. If not, it's poor on CA the way they've treated him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotchilipepa View Post
    I'm new to cricket - but ...

    It seems a bit short-sighted to arch up a player for wanting to play in the shorter forms of the game. One-day and especially Twenty20 is a great way to get people who usually hate cricket getting involved in the game, whether it's attending,watching on TV or playing the game. I can relate to these people - I used to be one. The way I used to view cricket was a boring, long monotonous game where rarely anything exciting happened... it was on TV all day and you basically couldn't talk to your dad/brother/boyfriend while it was on.

    Now that I work for a cricket association (irony?) and learning about the game a bit more I am starting to understand the appeal, especially with the shorter forms of the game and sometimes shield matches...

    Taity was just saying what all cricket marketers are thinking/strategizing. The shorter forms of the game are what bring new fans to the game, esp females. Cricket is no longer boring and reserved for up-tight nuffs who wear bow-ties. Getting females and more young kids involved in the game will create cricketers/fans in the future. It's where the money is and possibly the future of the game, even if 'traditionalists' don't like it. (but this is prob a whole other topic!)

    I'm not going to comment on what Taity (Corey will pay me out for calling him that) said, but...

    Forget what the newspapers have been saying, form your own opinions by listening to the raw audio from the Shaun Tait all-in with the media last Friday afternoon, straight from our own recorder:
    SACA - South Australian Cricket Association - Media - Shaun Tait speaks about Cricket Australia's contract list for next season

    Listen to what he said in its original context and without the media beat-up

    Discuss.
    Yeah, it's a bit different to what we all heard via the media summary. He sounds a lot more relaxed about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit different to what we all heard via the media summary. He sounds a lot more relaxed about it.
    He was very relaxed prior to the all-in. Him and the Media Manager were giggling at the media people running around in the rain, and probably me who had to gather them all up.

    Was the biggest media gathering I've seen since I've been here. Shaun Tait is a HUGE story and the resultant beat-up was pretty expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotchilipepa View Post
    He was very relaxed prior to the all-in. Him and the Media Manager were giggling at the media people running around in the rain, and probably me who had to gather them all up.

    Was the biggest media gathering I've seen since I've been here. Shaun Tait is a HUGE story and the resultant beat-up was pretty expected.
    So what happened? Did he answer a round of questions beforehand and then answer basically the same questions again once everyone arrives? Or was the all-in a brawl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    So what happened? Did he answer a round of questions beforehand and then answer basically the same questions again once everyone arrives? Or was the all-in a brawl?
    Everyone who is about to do a presser/all-in whatever is briefed beforehand. Esp players. You go through all the possible questions that may be asked and think about responses to them.

    Good media practice really - think about Vidmar's outburst after Adelaide United lost a soccer match earlier this year. Even just 5-10 mins with someone beforehand gives them a chance to prepare/calm down etc.

    I think he knew what to expect when he went out there, we have a great Media Manager. The media were pretty gentle on him to be honest - sucking up a bit really. He sells their papers

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotchilipepa View Post
    Everyone who is about to do a presser/all-in whatever is briefed beforehand. Esp players. You go through all the possible questions that may be asked and think about responses to them.

    Good media practice really - think about Vidmar's outburst after Adelaide United lost a soccer match earlier this year. Even just 5-10 mins with someone beforehand gives them a chance to prepare/calm down etc.

    I think he knew what to expect when he went out there, we have a great Media Manager. The media were pretty gentle on him to be honest - sucking up a bit really. He sells their papers
    Ahhh ok, now I understand. Actually my mate won one of those Nescafe Big Break things years ago and was on The Bert Newton Show. Reckons Bert was a bit of a prick as he was briefed on the questions beforehand, and then Bert asked totally different questions once the cameras were rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    The only way it's defensible I reckon is if he's still in future plans (say, for the next contract round) and CA is looking after its investment. Then you could look at his missing out as more of a furlough than a rejection. If not, it's poor on CA the way they've treated him.
    Yeah, that's my take on it. Obviously as he was contracted to CA they were within their rights legally-speaking to stop him playing this year's IPL, but to then give him the push after having done so seems not only bad man management but almost a little vindictive. Those who make the calls as to the allocations of the central contracts must've had a far inkling Tait wouldn't have been retained for the coming year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
    Ahhh ok, now I understand. Actually my mate won one of those Nescafe Big Break things years ago and was on The Bert Newton Show. Reckons Bert was a bit of a prick as he was briefed on the questions beforehand, and then Bert asked totally different questions once the cameras were rolling.

    Haha, poor form! Bert Newton has always struck me as a prick.

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    AdelaideNow... Shaun Tait's future hangs in balance

    Didn't know whether to post it in here but...

    What kind of contract can Tait expect from South Australia if he only makes himself available for FR-cup and T20 cricket? It's not actually that many days of cricket really, only 15 days, and the season would be over in February. Presumably that doesn't put him in the top few of their contracted players, those who will play all forms?

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    Any chance of Brockley getting unbaned yet?

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    No, brockley will have to sit-out the ban's duration same as anyone else who cops a finite-length ban. Bans are never revoked on CW unless there's very good reason, which from what I understand from this case there is not and cannot be.
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    Shuan Tait arrived home from England this week and spoke to Adelaide's media about half and hour ago...

    Main topic of conversation was his CA contract and future in all forms of the game, makes for interesting listening

    Listen to the unedited presser/all-in with Taity this morning at the SACA website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotchilipepa View Post
    Shuan Tait arrived home from England this week and spoke to Adelaide's media about half and hour ago...

    Main topic of conversation was his CA contract and future in all forms of the game, makes for interesting listening

    Listen to the unedited presser/all-in with Taity this morning at the SACA website.
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    To return to a theme I touched on in "stats do not do him justice":

    Quote Originally Posted by Me in that thread View Post
    Interesting point about Bev's personality tho, sometimes I think the Australian team isn't perhaps the most accomodating to those players without the (stereo)typical Ocker identikit dispositions. MacGill always seemed an outsider as does/did Symonds now. 20 years ago Symonds would've fitted right in perhaps, but now he's unwilling or unable to adjust.
    Is Tait another bloke with an atypical personality who CA haven't been able to accomodate? Seems to be a very diffident sort of a fella, especially as six feet plus, excess of 200lb fire breathing quicks go.

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