Shaun tait to go english

[BoyBrumby]

Just read the article and there was no mention of him considering playing for the poms...

There kinda was, tbf:

sources close to him said he was deeply disappointed and exploring a variety options to re-start his career. He had expressed a desire to come back for the latter stages of the IPL and has even discussed using his father's English heritage to secure a position in county cricket.

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If he were to play in the county championship as a non-overseas player he's a de facto Pom, even if we can't call him up for 4 years after his last appearance for Australia.

In practice, of course, the chances of him playing for us are zero.

 

[Athlai]

May as well play for NZ.

 

[Uppercut]

I can understand Tait's frustration with missing out on IPL money and then a CA contract. I would probably feel the same.

However, it is more annoying than wrong. The facts are that he was under contract and that contract was not renewed.

Not very fair though. If they're not going to pick him again, why wouldn't they let him play IPL? If they are, why no contract? They're saying to Tait- look mate, you can't play for us, but we're not letting you play for those guys either. Quite shabby treatment IMO.

 

[Redbacks]

another SA player unhappy with **** treatment from CA, prepared to speak out about it and possibly earn a cross through his name, who would have thought

 

[Son Of Coco]

Not very fair though. If they're not going to pick him again, why wouldn't they let him play IPL? If they are, why no contract? They're saying to Tait- look mate, you can't play for us, but we're not letting you play for those guys either. Quite shabby treatment IMO.

That was a bit dodgy, but no contract doesn't mean he can't play for Australia.

 

[Son Of Coco]

another SA player unhappy with **** treatment from CA, prepared to speak out about it and possibly earn a cross through his name, who would have thought

 

[Richard]

That was a bit dodgy, but no contract doesn't mean he can't play for Australia.

That isn't the point though - the point is that if you've not received a contract (out of 25 names) it's a fairly sure indication that you're a fair way down the pecking-order. And if such a thing is the case, it's a bit rich to have stopped you playing in some mickey-mouse tournament.

 

[Goughy]

Not very fair though. If they're not going to pick him again, why wouldn't they let him play IPL? If they are, why no contract? They're saying to Tait- look mate, you can't play for us, but we're not letting you play for those guys either. Quite shabby treatment IMO.

If he is contracted then they can tell him what they think is best. The decision was made whilst he was under contract. They are under no obligation to offer him a new one. Maybe they had not decided the full list a few weeks ago?

Contracts are like relationships. You are either in one or not. If someone breaks up with you then overnight you go from sleeping with them, to not being able to touch them. It is a considerable change in circumstance. Same with contracts. He was under contract, now he will not be. When he was under contract he was treated as everyone else was.

 

[_Ed_]

May as well play for NZ.

He's had enough injury problems as it is.

 

[Son Of Coco]

That isn't the point though - the point is that if you've not received a contract (out of 25 names) it's a fairly sure indication that you're a fair way down the pecking-order. And if such a thing is the case, it's a bit rich to have stopped you playing in some mickey-mouse tournament.

Maybe the decision hadn't been made then. Tait was still under contract to CA, and I didn't hear him complaining when he was being paid whilst injured. Tait's been supported through injury, and through a time when he couldn't work out whether he wanted to play cricket or not. In Tait's case I'd say him not being in the top 25 names is an indication of how much cricket he's played recently and his history of injuries. That they didn't want him to play the tournament could be taken as an indication that he's still in their plans. If he pulls himself together and gets a season under his belt where he performs well he might find himself back in the contract list.

The contracted players list isn't the be all and end all.

 

[Shri]

Cricinfo - Bollinger weighs up England options

Bollinger considers English cricet too.

Going at this rate, the Ashes might be played between Australia and Australia in a few years.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Cricinfo - Bollinger weighs up England options

Bollinger considers English cricet too.

Going at this rate, the Ashes might be played between Australia and Australia in a few years.

Yeah, as in Bollinger is weighing up playing county cricket as an international player.

Tait is planning on going over as an English player, using his parentage. Big difference.

 

[Shri]

Yeah, as in Bollinger is weighing up playing county cricket as an international player.

Tait is planning on going over as an English player, using his parentage. Big difference.

Oops. My bad. Just read the headline and not the article.

 

[Top_Cat]

At least he was able to perform over a domestic season.

Point. Christ, at least White played FC cricket at all, really.

 

[Flem274*]

May as well play for NZ.

He's had enough injury problems as it is.

Piss off. I'd rather Mitchell McClennaghan or Hamish Bennet get presented the silver fern in a rubbish bag than an Australian who has a jerky knee and a breakable body, also one who has rarely shown any consistency whatsoever, let alone a decent economy rate.

And yes, I realise you weren't serious, but before anyone else gets any ideas...

 

[four_or_six]

That isn't the point though - the point is that if you've not received a contract (out of 25 names) it's a fairly sure indication that you're a fair way down the pecking-order. And if such a thing is the case, it's a bit rich to have stopped you playing in some mickey-mouse tournament.

It doesn't necessarily mean he isn't in their thoughts. Warner doesn't have a contract and he is in their T20 WC squad. It's just that if you don't play first class cricket, and you don't intend to, you go way down their ratings system, because that uses all three forms.

I don't think Tait's been that hard done by. They paid him a contract for months whilst he was taking a break from the game to support him, so it's not as if they've dropped him as soon as he got injured.

 

[Woodster]

Personally I can see where CA are coming from. They appear to be taking the long-term view and see his inclusion as the IPL as a potential setback to his future health, which to be honest would be more than likely with his past. Tait is looking purely at short term gains, yes it was a lot of money for him, and he has been left out of the Australian contract list, but understandably so after his recent probelms. He needs to remain injury free, play some proper cricket and get back in their thoughts, the door is certainly not shut on his international career should he show the right sttitiude to get back to where he was.

 

[Noble One]

Personally I can see where CA are coming from. They appear to be taking the long-term view and see his inclusion as the IPL as a potential setback to his future health, which to be honest would be more than likely with his past. Tait is looking purely at short term gains, yes it was a lot of money for him, and he has been left out of the Australian contract list, but understandably so after his recent probelms. He needs to remain injury free, play some proper cricket and get back in their thoughts, the door is certainly not shut on his international career should he show the right sttitiude to get back to where he was.

Funny how long-term sustainability disappear when $400,000 is dangled in front of you.

Best thing for Tait is to take things easy over the winter break. Head back to South Australia, and take big bags of wickets. He has a good supporting cast of bowlers in South Australia, still every chance of repeating his 65 wicket domestic season.

He still remains ever so close to Australian selection. Hilditch has acknowledged this, Tait just needs to put some hard yards in.

 

[Craig]

another SA player unhappy with **** treatment from CA, prepared to speak out about it and possibly earn a cross through his name, who would have thought

As done by Ashley Noffke

 

[Matt79]

Noffke reputedly had the cross next to his name before he vented his annoyance in public however.

Feel for Tait here. Goughy's right about being in contract or not but as a boss, if you want a decent long term relationship, you can't screw people like happened here. And clearly it hasn't been communicated to Tait in a way that has reassured him. And not that he should get special treatment because of it, but in considering how they handled this issue, CA should have thought about the fact that this is a bloke who has already got so jaded/unhappy in the game once that he's withdrawn from playing. If he's just starting to get back into playing regularly and enjoying it, and you want to have a decent relationship with him, encourage him, don't screw him over.

Tait would have had to be even prior to this episode, the Australian player most likely to opt out of national duties in favour of the IPL. His extreme pace would make him a draw card there, and he'd demand $$$ for that factor alone ("160kph" is a pretty effective marketing tool, especially it must be said in the subcontinent). He was already on the record as saying that he feels he a better bowler in 20/20 and ODIs than FC or Tests. And he was already on the record as saying he didn't enjoy what was required for him to stay fit year around to play cricket. Earning enough money to make a decent living in 2 months of work would be a natural for him.

Against this background, not cutting him slack to go to IPL, or else not to give him a contract or some form of encouragement that there's a long term role for him in the national set-up beyond the "keep working hard and perform and you'll give yourself every chance", which applies to every cricketer not in the team, doesn't seem the smartest move for CA, if they want the option of a fit and firing Tait available for consideration.