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    So many quality bowlers in one test match

    Ambrose, Marshal, Bishop, Walsh, Wasim, Waqar, Imran, Qadir

    Thats 8 world class bowlers in one game sure Immz, Marshal and Qadir were on a decline but still thats some serious quality unfortunatley Mushtaq was injured for this game or it would have been 9 quality bowlers.

    http://content.cricinfo.com/pakistan...tch/63542.html

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    It's a miracle it was a draw and all the batsmen came out alive.

    Which attack do you think is better? It's so close...there's nothing between them IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    Which attack do you think is better?
    IMO, clearly WI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    IMO, clearly WI
    Yeah I agree, especially with Hooper as the spinner. He was quite underrated.

    Still, very rare that an attack is better than Imran, Wasim, Waqar and Qadir.


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    Really? Pak's got Imran, Wasim, Waqar, and Qadir. Four of their all-time greats.

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    Man for man at the time:

    Marshall vs Imran: Marshall
    Wasim vs Ambrose: Wasim (at that time)
    Bishop vs Waqar : Waqar
    Qadir vs Walsh: Walsh

    So imo it was a toss up. If we were going career wise then the only matchup that Pakistan would win would be in the case of Bishop vs Waqar
    Cause Slifer said so.........!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    Really? Pak's got Imran, Wasim, Waqar, and Qadir. Four of their all-time greats.
    And Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh and Bishop were also four of the WIndies all time greats.

    In fact Hooper was the second best spinner the WIndies ever produced and he was there too.

    EDIT: Still, for the Pakistanis I'd have all four of those in their all time bowling squad with Imran, Wasim and Waqar being walk up starts every game. Qadir potentially dropped on fast bowler wickets for someone like Akhtar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer View Post
    Man for man at the time:

    Marshall vs Imran: Marshall
    Wasim vs Ambrose: Wasim (at that time)
    Bishop vs Waqar : Waqar
    Qadir vs Walsh: Walsh

    So imo it was a toss up. If we were going career wise then the only matchup that Pakistan would win would be in the case of Bishop vs Waqar
    You can't really do a man for man comparison though. If you do it can be weighted:

    Marshall vs Qadir - Marshall
    Bishop vs Wasim - Wasim
    Ambrose vs Imran - Imran
    Walsh vs Waqar - Waqar

    Though a couple of these are pushing it, you can see how a man for man matchup becomes quite dependent on who you're matching. More important is how the team works as a unit.

    Interestingly it seems that the four great WIndies quicks couldn't dismiss the Pakistani batting lineup (which, to be fair to them, wasn't close to the best team of batsmen ever to play for Pakistan). With Qadir's help the Pakistani attack may have been able to.

    So that makes the WIndies attack "better" but the Pakistani attack more balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer View Post
    Man for man at the time:

    Marshall vs Imran: Marshall
    Wasim vs Ambrose: Wasim (at that time)
    Bishop vs Waqar : Waqar
    Qadir vs Walsh: Walsh

    So imo it was a toss up. If we were going career wise then the only matchup that Pakistan would win would be in the case of Bishop vs Waqar
    Id take Bishop and Ambrose over Wasim and Waqar in 1990 but that is personal preference. For that period of time I think it those 4 bowlers are tough to seperate so IMO that is a push.

    Then the WI are better in the other 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post

    Interestingly it seems that the four great WIndies quicks couldn't dismiss the Pakistani batting lineup (which, to be fair to them, wasn't close to the best team of batsmen ever to play for Pakistan).
    Cricinfo - Records - Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore - Test matches - Match results

    Ground record. Flat and useless wicket, looks like. Let's not forget: Samaraweera scored a double here - in a game in which Dilshan and Sanga also scored hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    IMO, clearly WI
    Yup but the Pak attack is no pushover I would love to see a test match where the combined bowling attacks is better then the one in this test series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evermind View Post
    it's a miracle it was a draw and all the batsmen came out alive.

    Which attack do you think is better? It's so close...there's nothing between them imo.
    wi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuhaib View Post
    Yup but the Pak attack is no pushover I would love to see a test match where the combined bowling attacks is better then the one in this test series.
    How about this test.

    McDermott
    McGrath
    Warne
    Reiffel

    Versus

    Wasim
    Waqar
    Saqlain
    Mushtaq

    Of comparable quality and with much more variety than the 1990 example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissector View Post
    How about this test.

    McDermott
    McGrath
    Warne
    Reiffel

    Versus

    Wasim
    Waqar
    Saqlain
    Mushtaq

    Of comparable quality and with much more variety than the 1990 example.
    Saqlain & Mushtaq< Imran &Qadir

    Reifel &Mcdermott<Bishop&Walsh

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    I don't know about that. How good was Imran in 1990 as a bowler? I don't think he was bowling much at that time. Quadir was probably past his peak as well.

    As for Australia versus West Indies you do have McGrath and Warne who some would argue are slightly better than Marshall and Ambrose and certainly provide more variety.

    Overall man for man I think the 90 attack may been slightly better but the 95 attacks are better balanced and would probably work a bit better as attacks.

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