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Is Dhoni greatest OdI cricketer off all-time

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Dhoni (along with Pollock) has a real case for being the best. For every other player there is someone who played a similar role, but arguably did it better.
Well, Kapil did what Pollock did but was significantly better
 

CricAddict

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Kapil, Pollock, Klusenar, Jayasuriya, Watson, Imran, Hadlee and as outsiders Shakib and Afridi.. So many quality all-rounders out there. Couple of these guys definitely deserve to be in the top 10, if not top 5.
 

trundler

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Pollock played until 2008 and finished with a better economy rate than McGrath and Akram. Spent almost his entire career at the top of the rankings as Bolo said. Basically S tier as a bowler alone and when you add the runs he's any captain's dream.

Weird how you don't see bowlers like him and McGrath in ODIs anymore though.
 

TheJediBrah

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Pollock played until 2008 and finished with a better economy rate than McGrath and Akram. Spent almost his entire career at the top of the rankings as Bolo said. Basically S tier as a bowler alone and when you add the runs he's any captain's dream.

Weird how you don't see bowlers like him and McGrath in ODIs anymore though.
Are there bowlers like him and McGrath anymore? Maybe a few with similar styles but nowhere near as good

Mohammad Abbas I guess
 

TheJediBrah

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Fun comparison between Pollock and McGrath:
pre-2000 Pollock averaged 20, post-2000 averaged >25
pre-2000 McGrath averaged 22, post-2000 averaged 20

Working on a few assumptions that could indicate that Pollock relied slightly more on pace than McGrath did. McGrath actually got more effective as he slowed down and Pollock got less.
 

ankitj

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Fun comparison between Pollock and McGrath:
pre-2000 Pollock averaged 20, post-2000 averaged >25
pre-2000 McGrath averaged 22, post-2000 averaged 20

Working on a few assumptions that could indicate that Pollock relied slightly more on pace than McGrath did. McGrath actually got more effective as he slowed down and Pollock got less.
Those are ODI figures?
 

Burgey

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Can we define greatest here please? Does it mean best, or does it mean something else?
 

TheJediBrah

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They dont at all. 118 wickets @ 23.4 in the 90s vs 275 wickets @24.5 in the 2000s. If anything he was statistically better in the 2000s. Economy was better too.
When I say a "similar story" I'm talking about the comparison between the 2. McGrath's figures post-2000 improve more than Pollock's do.

But yes it's definitely not as stark a contrast as the Test figures, which I was more interested anyway, despite the diversion from the original thread topic.
 

h_hurricane

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A couple of other interesting stats.

Only player in 1990s to take 100+ ODI wickets with ER less than 3.5 -- Curtly Ambrose(3.48)

Only player in history to take 100+ ODI wickets at ER less than 4 and 2000+ ODI runs at SR greater than 100 in a decade -- Kapil Dev in 1980s(ER 3.68, SR 101.91)
 

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