The Greatest All-Rounder of All Time

[The Sean]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

New Zealand at home. Missed the series (circa 1990) where Chris Pringle went ball tampering loopy. Imran said his presence would only make the mismatch between the two sides even more apparent.

Thanks, hadn't heard that story before. Not sure how much difference the Imran of 1990 would necessarily have made (as opposed to the Imran of say 1982), but it's good to know regardless.

[TT Boy]

In pomp, Imran also missed the 1984/5 series against New Zealand at home. Zaheer Abbas captained the side in Khan's absence.

[bagapath]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

In pomp, Imran also missed the 1984/5 series against New Zealand at home. Zaheer Abbas captained the side in Khan's absence.

well he was not fit to play. it was not because he didnt choose to play against a weak team. as much a hero as he was to our generation, i cant take it that he is made into this super human hero who didnt want to fight with weaker opponents whereas in reality his actual USP was in performing super human deeds despite being very human, with a bad back and all that.

[MrIncredible]

NZL of the 80s werenot a weak side.

[bagapath]

Originally Posted by MrIncredible

NZL of the 80s werenot a weak side.

yes. that is also true.

[BhupinderSingh]

Originally Posted by The Sean

Could you give some examples? I'm not disbelieving you, but I'd be keen to see when it happened.

He did it mostly against Sri Lanka and sometimes against NZ as well(NZ in 80s were not exactly minnows but not world class either).

[The Sean]

Originally Posted by BhupinderSingh

He did it mostly against Sri Lanka and sometimes against NZ as well(NZ in 80s were not exactly minnows but not world class either).

How often did he do it against Sri Lanka? He seemed to play them quite a lot.

And there were at least three countries worse than NZ for a fair amount of the 1980s, perhaps more than that at times. They were a good side.

[bagapath]

Originally Posted by BhupinderSingh

He did it mostly against Sri Lanka and sometimes against NZ as well(NZ in 80s were not exactly minnows but not world class either).

not true bhupinder

[SJS]

From the time Sri Lanka were taken into the Test fold till the day Imran retired, Pakistan and Sri Lanka played four Test series and 12 Test matches. Imran missed the first two Tests and played all the rest.

Series     Matches	Imran In
		
1981-1982 	3       	1
1985-1986 	3       	3
1985-1986 	3       	3
1991-1992 	3       	3

[bagapath]

Originally Posted by SJS

From the time Sri Lanka were taken into the Test fold till the day Imran retired, Pakistan and Sri Lanka played four Test series and 12 Test matches. Imran missed the first two Tests and played all the rest.

Series     Matches	Imran In
		
1981-1982 	3       	1
1985-1986 	3       	3
1985-1986 	3       	3
1991-1992 	3       	3

yeah. thats what i have been saying. bhupinder makes these claims but goes into hiding when someone wants to see some proof.

[SJS]

Originally Posted by bagapath

yeah. thats what i have been saying. bhupinder makes these claims but goes into hiding when someone wants to see some proof.

Thats okay. As far as i am concerned he (and his posts) are perpetually in hiding

[BhupinderSingh]

Originally Posted by bagapath

yeah. thats what i have been saying. bhupinder makes these claims but goes into hiding when someone wants to see some proof.

Thats probaly the only claim for which I couldn't present any substantial proofs.Other than this one,whenever I Maid a claim,I presented the proof.I said it on the basis that there were significant number of tests in 1980s in which Miandad captained the side while Imran rested,don't remember against which teams exactly but thought it would've been Sri Lanka or some other depled sides.But if thats not the case,I apologise.

[BhupinderSingh]

Originally Posted by SJS

Thats okay. As far as i am concerned he (and his posts) are perpetually in hiding

Thats not true,SJS.Because that was my only only claim for which I didn't have appropriate evidence.