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Old 27-06-2003, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Graeme Smith

damn Graeme Smith is fast becoming my most hated sports player..he is constantly making controversial statements or whinging about something.

So far this week he's said that theres no way England will beat South Africa and now he's calling the schedule unfair..although he'll recall that in the VB Series last year S.A had the exact same problem with NZ and it worked to their advantage at the end so maybe he should just shut up & start winning some matches.
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Old 28-06-2003, 12:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Totally agree... I can't believe this guy is captain
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Old 28-06-2003, 05:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Graeme Smith

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he's said that theres no way England will beat South Africa
Nothing wrong with that? If that came from Steve Waugh it would be called confidance...

Hes not that bad, SA have had a lot of bad luck, and he is entitled to a rant...

One thing that did annoy me is him having a go at a far more experienced player (Klusener), that was out of order, and he was put in his place...
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Old 28-06-2003, 07:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was surprised he became captain, but I can see why. Ever since the late Hansie Cronje lost his captaincy for match fixing which then cost him his life in a plane crash, there has always been a sort of "Hansie" arua or loyality to some of Cronje's former good mates and that was always affecting Shaun Pollock's captaincy.

So when South Africa failed to make the Super Sixes, Pollock was given the axe and Smith was given it to start a fresh and let Smith lead it his own way with out this "Hansie" feeling through out the team.

Smith never played under, against or even met Cronje, so he cant have that problem. I think it was a good move, although a bit early, he is used to captaining sides anyway at age group level.

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Old 28-06-2003, 12:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Langeveldt, are you South African by any chance?

No im a brit, i used to live in SA
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Old 28-06-2003, 05:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with that? If that came from Steve Waugh it would be called confidance...
Waugh has the players to back it up.
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Old 28-06-2003, 05:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does anyone really know for sure that Graeme Smith has total support from the other players?
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Old 28-06-2003, 09:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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He has it of Shaun Pollock, but yes he does.
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Old 29-06-2003, 08:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Does anyone really know for sure that Graeme Smith has total support from the other players?
How can anyone know for sure? Only the players can say that for sure. Not even Smith can be sure....
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Maybe Graeme Smith is just trying to follow in the footsteps of Steve Waugh( off-pitch mental disintegration )....not a bad ploy to gain an early advantage over the opposition.....only that there are 2 flaws......the verbal diarrhoea should work.....and Steve built a strong team to back him up before he started mouthing off.....Graeme Smith 's team doesnt exactly inspire confidence that it can back him up.....:P
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Does anyone really know for sure that Graeme Smith has total support from the other players?
I'm not sure if my comment was misconstrued, but I meant that Waugh's players are the best in the World, hence he can say it.

Smith's aren't.
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I'm missing Pollock.
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Old 02-07-2003, 02:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think South Africa have a very talented side - especially in ODI cricket. They bat right down to number nine and they have several players who can hit the ball and bowl a few overs. Think New Zealand only more powerful.

Just look at what Andrew Hall did on Saturday, Kallis and Gibbs are class plus Pollock, Boucher, Boje, etc can all bat. Van Jaarsveld seems a very talented player.

With the ball Pollock is truly world class and Ntini is getting there, Boje is a useful spinner, if Smith does a good job and fits the pieces together they can be much more than dangerous, even without Klusener.
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Old 02-07-2003, 03:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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IMO, i think the present SA crop are excellent, especially as they have rotten administration and luck at the moment..

I agree with Bazza, i love the look of guys like Martin Van Jaarsveld and Jacques Rudolph, and there are a couple of great prospects waiting in the wings..

However the bowling looks a little bit thin...Pollock, Ntini and Bojé are test class bowlers, but im concerned about guys like Hall and Dawson.. They are very good bowlers but i dont think we should be relying on them against the best teams...

Cant see SA losing the number 2 tag tho

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