SehwagVsGilchrist

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by SJS

To me Sehwag is much better in Tests and they are more or less even in odi's. Maybe Gilchrist could be slightly ahead in the limited version. That may change with how Sehwag is batting in odi's now.

That puts Sehwag ahead for me. I give much more weightage to Tests and the difference in odi's is not significant if any.

The funny thing is, they're incredible aggressive batsmen in tests but for some reason it didn't come off for either of them in ODIs for long periods of their careers. People often point to Sehwag's fairly poor overall record in the format when Gilchrist's near-identical one is seemingly never mentioned.

[SJS]

Originally Posted by Uppercut

The funny thing is, they're incredible aggressive batsmen in tests but for some reason it didn't come off for either of them in ODIs for long periods of their careers. People often point to Sehwag's fairly poor overall record in the format when Gilchrist's near-identical one is seemingly never mentioned.

I think that is because of Sehwag's amazing run of very big Test hundreds including triples.

By the way, I think Sehwag has sorted out his bugs. No more throwing away his wicket by trying to hit everythimg to the off and getting caught behind square so often. The fact is that after being dropped he has reached an amazing level at consistency and is scoring faster than before which seems unbelievable.

In 178 games till he was dropped Sehwag had the following stats

• Matches :183
• Runs : 5312
• Average : 31.0
• St Rate : 96.5

Since then he has i

• Matches : 21
• Runs : 1240
• Average : 62.0
• St Rate : 131.5
• 100's : 3
• 50's : 11

It is an amazing run. In 21 innings he has three hundreds, another 11 fifties and three other scores in the 40's !! Mind boggling. Here is the complete run

89, 59, 2, 78, 119, 49, 42, 60, 85, 1, 68, 69, 91, 42, 116, 5, 6, 77, 54, 3, 125 not out.

I would love someone to try and find a similarly consistent run by any other batsman in odi's and at a strike rate of 131 !!

[Uppercut]

AWTA- would also like to add that only two of the matches mentioned were against minnows, one apiece against Bangladesh and Hong Kong in the Asia cup. Sehwag's an awesome batsman these days.

[Ikki]

Wait till the end of their careers. Gilchrist in his peak would steam-roll Sehwag who is at his peak at the moment - if we accept it's his peak. Will wait a while before judging.

[grant28]

Sorry I disagree, I think Gilchrist is better. I think Sehwag is overrated tbh.

[Nutter]

Originally Posted by oitoitoi

Imagine having them both opening in an ODI....Left/Right combo of pure destruction

I think I'd go with Sehwag/Jayasuriya for an ODI opening pair.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by Nutter

I think I'd go with Sehwag/Jayasuriya for an ODI opening pair.

Tendulkar would be the first pick for one day opening bat. Also, I don't understand all the Sehwag love in ODI cricket. The guy averages 34 in ODIs over his career. Surely he needs to play better longer.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Pratters

I don't understand all the Sehwag love in ODI cricket. The guy averages 34 in ODIs over his career.

Its the combination of 34 and 100 which makes him special though.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Its the combination of 34 and 100 which makes him special though.

Sehwag's S/R is over stated. Even Jayasuirya averages 32 with a S/R of 91 over a much longer career. Sehwag's career isn't over and not that long ago, he was averaging in 30 range. I will wait till his career is over before I rate him highly as an ODI batsman.

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Pratters

Sehwag's S/R is over stated. Even Jayasuirya averages 32 with a S/R of 91 over a much longer career. Sehwag's career isn't over and not that long ago, he was averaging in 30 range. I will wait till his career is over before I rate him highly as an ODI batsman.

91 is as far from 100 as 34 is from 40. So I don't see what your point is? Sehwag's played almost as many matches as Bevan. Unless Bevan can't be rated too on grounds of sample size.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by SJS

I think that is because of Sehwag's amazing run of very big Test hundreds including triples.

By the way, I think Sehwag has sorted out his bugs. No more throwing away his wicket by trying to hit everythimg to the off and getting caught behind square so often. The fact is that after being dropped he has reached an amazing level at consistency and is scoring faster than before which seems unbelievable.

In 178 games till he was dropped Sehwag had the following stats

• Matches :183
• Runs : 5312
• Average : 31.0
• St Rate : 96.5

Since then he has i

• Matches : 21
• Runs : 1240
• Average : 62.0
• St Rate : 131.5
• 100's : 3
• 50's : 11

It is an amazing run. In 21 innings he has three hundreds, another 11 fifties and three other scores in the 40's !! Mind boggling. Here is the complete run

89, 59, 2, 78, 119, 49, 42, 60, 85, 1, 68, 69, 91, 42, 116, 5, 6, 77, 54, 3, 125 not out.

I would love someone to try and find a similarly consistent run by any other batsman in odi's and at a strike rate of 131 !!

The Sehwag innings stat was given in Times of India. It is too early to judge him based on 20/21 innings.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

91 is as far from 100 as 34 is from 40. So I don't see what your point is? Sehwag's played almost as many matches as Bevan. Unless Bevan can't be rated too on grounds of sample size.

9/91 x 100 = 9.89%.
6/34 x 100 = 17.65%.

Nopes not the same at all. Try again.

Also, Sehwag may have played more matches than Bevan but Bevan's career is over. So we can judge him and give a final analysis on it. Sehwag still has years left in his career and there is no way of telling where it will end up.

[haroon510]

this is a hard one.. vote for gilly though..

i just think Gilly was more reliable.. with Sehwag .. sometimes he plays unnecessary shots and give his wicket away..

[G.I.Joe]

Originally Posted by Pratters

9/91 x 100 = 9.89%.
6/34 x 100 = 17.65%.

Nopes not the same at all. Try again.

Thats far too simplistic. Try the cricinfo records section.

Number of batsmen averaging 40+ = 31.

Number of batsmen striking at 90+ = 12.

Number of batsmen striking at 100+ = 6.

Number of batsmen averaging 30+ and striking at 90+ = 12.

Sehwag is anything but average.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Thats far too simplistic. Try the cricinfo records section.

Number of batsmen averaging 40+ = 31.

Number of batsmen striking at 90+ = 12.

Number of batsmen striking at 100+ = 6.

Number of batsmen averaging 30+ and striking at 90+ = 12.

Sehwag is anything but average.

I quoted your stats and showed you how it is not the same and you call that simplistic.

And where did I say Sehwag is average exactly?