View Poll Results: Who are the TWO opening bowlers for the Post Packer Dream XI?

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  • Imran

    9 12.68%
  • Hadlee

    28 39.44%
  • Marshall

    46 64.79%
  • Garner

    5 7.04%
  • Ambrose

    12 16.90%
  • McGrath

    27 38.03%
  • Donald

    3 4.23%
  • Holding

    4 5.63%
  • Pollock

    3 4.23%
  • Akram

    8 11.27%
  • Steyn

    1 1.41%
  • Bishop

    1 1.41%
  • Lillee

    11 15.49%
  • Walsh

    1 1.41%
  • Reid

    1 1.41%
  • Waqar

    2 2.82%
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    Toughy. I went for Marshall and McGrath. Akram would be better with the old ball.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    why cant we take in imran and marshall for now. select war/murali as the spinner. choose lillee/hadlee for the fourth bowler. and then bring in beefy as the all-rounder?

    an attack of, say, imran, marshall, hadlee, warne and botham looks menacing enough to me. also this is one hell of a batting line up too. in this scenario marshall and warne would bat at 10 and 11 - and both of them are handy bats. no 9 (hadlee) has scored 2 centuries. and no 8 (imran) has 6. no. 7 (gilly) has 17. no 6 (beefy) has 14. and they all were attacking stroke makers.

    interesting possibility, me thinks

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    love it how Lillee is being chosen over Hadlee,despite his average being some 8 points higher.

    Oh, I forgot: Lillee is Australian and it would be unheard of for a New Zealand bowler to be considered better than him.

    I always thought that if roles were reversed and Lillee was a New Zealander, and Hadlee and Australian, and they ended up with the same career stats, people would consider Hadlee to be much better. Think about it.
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    Makes sense really. Kiwis are rubbish at everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    love it how Lillee is being chosen over Hadlee,despite his average being some 8 points higher.

    Oh, I forgot: Lillee is Australian and it would be unheard of for a New Zealand bowler to be considered better than him.

    I always thought that if roles were reversed and Lillee was a New Zealander, and Hadlee and Australian, and they ended up with the same career stats, people would consider Hadlee to be much better. Think about it.
    Yep - I chose Hadlee over Lillee. Always thought Lillee was a little overhyped, considering his average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    Makes sense really. Kiwis are rubbish at everything.
    To say nothing of the English.

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    Good job, andyc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    To say nothing of the English.
    No arguments there.

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    Going Ambrose and Marshall, Wasim for the old ball and Imran will be my AR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    love it how Lillee is being chosen over Hadlee,despite his average being some 8 points higher.

    Oh, I forgot: Lillee is Australian and it would be unheard of for a New Zealand bowler to be considered better than him.

    I always thought that if roles were reversed and Lillee was a New Zealander, and Hadlee and Australian, and they ended up with the same career stats, people would consider Hadlee to be much better. Think about it.
    not sure of that D.O.G. martin crowe's stats are inferior to doug walters'. but he is likely to be considered the better batsman, and he was.

    national bias doesnt have much to do with lillee's popularity. even hadlee used to imagine lillee's bowling action at the top of his run up to inspire himself. their strike rates are similar. they both took 5 wickets/ test on average. the difference in their overall bowling average is about 1 run. and it is attributed to hadlee's marginally better economy rate. lillee being faster than hadlee was also a little more expensive. lillee was an out and out fast bowler. he was a lee/akhthar/waqar bowling with the accuracy of an ambrose/mcgrath/pollock. i am not surprised he is respected and loved so much around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermind View Post
    Good job, andyc!
    He doesn't actually distort the poll though. Think of it of the multi-poll alternative to the irrelevant third option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    love it how Lillee is being chosen over Hadlee,despite his average being some 8 points higher.

    Oh, I forgot: Lillee is Australian and it would be unheard of for a New Zealand bowler to be considered better than him.

    I always thought that if roles were reversed and Lillee was a New Zealander, and Hadlee and Australian, and they ended up with the same career stats, people would consider Hadlee to be much better. Think about it.
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    Hadlee might have got some lbws in Australia that would have further improved his record however, it has to be said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    love it how Lillee is being chosen over Hadlee,despite his average being some 8 points higher.

    Oh, I forgot: Lillee is Australian and it would be unheard of for a New Zealand bowler to be considered better than him.

    I always thought that if roles were reversed and Lillee was a New Zealander, and Hadlee and Australian, and they ended up with the same career stats, people would consider Hadlee to be much better. Think about it.
    Point well made. Given his good-but-not-completely-outstanding career record I find it odd that so many people rate Lillee as the best of all time.

    On point of pure pedantry, Lillee's average is 1.7 points higher than Hadlee's (23.92 v 22.29).

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    going for marshall and hadlee. the best of the 80s. never failed in any country. or in any phase of their careers.

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    I voted Marshall and McGrath.

    McGrath probably the greatest line and length bowler of all time and is vastly underrated by many I think.

    Marshall probably the most dangerous bowler in the most dangerous pace bowling lineup ever.

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