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Mister Wright 30-01-2009 01:25 PM

Is Michael Clarke the worst leaver in the game?
 
We've seen him get out some shocking ways when leaving the ball. There was that ODI against Zimbabwe, and the one against New Zealand where he advanced down the pitch and left the ball to be bowled by Vettori. Then there was last night and he's been out LBW a few times leaving the ball aswell.

So the question is....Is Michael Clarke the worst leaver in the game?

Can't think of another player off the top of my head who gets out so many times leaving the ball.

fredfertang 30-01-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Wright (Post 1806210)
We've seen him get out some shocking ways when leaving the ball. There was that ODI against Zimbabwe, and the one against New Zealand where he advanced down the pitch and left the ball to be bowled by Vettori. Then there was last night and he's been out LBW a few times leaving the ball aswell.

So the question is....Is Michael Clarke the worst leaver in the game?

Can't think of another player off the top of my head who gets out so many times leaving the ball.

Gatt had a special talent for that

Matt79 30-01-2009 01:30 PM

Obviously yes. That is why he averages nearly 50 in test cricket.

chaminda_00 30-01-2009 01:42 PM

Lance Gibbs. He just lefted everything to ensure he never got hit.

Prassana was as bad, but technically he wasn't leaving the ball. Just missed it a fair bit.

Jigga988 30-01-2009 01:55 PM

Ramdin has had a couple shocking ones of late... arn't you forgetting the infamous ashes dismissal - Simon Jones... pretty sure that was Clarke who he bowled though I could be wrong.

Goughy 30-01-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Wright (Post 1806210)
Can't think of another player off the top of my head who gets out so many times leaving the ball.

For a brief period getting bowled leaving the ball was known as being 'Herschelle'd"

Maybe a local thing though, but he was a bad leaver as well.

Mr Mxyzptlk 30-01-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt79 (Post 1806213)
Obviously yes. That is why he averages nearly 50 in test cricket.

Hey, Kyle isn't saying he's not a quality batsman. He's just saying that the kid is comparatively poor at leaving the ball. There seems a decent case for it, but it's not a technical problem or anything particularly pertaining to leaving alone. It's a judgment issue it seems, which could be tied in with a lack of concentration.

Simon 30-01-2009 02:33 PM

The leave yesterday wasnt a luck of judgement or anything, he has every right to leave it. Was just a bit sloppy leaving his bat there and the ball could have gone anywhere unluckily it went onto the stumps.

Zinzan 30-01-2009 02:44 PM

No Chris Martin is; the way he plays inside & outside the line of deliveries on middle stump :p

Jigga988 30-01-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zinzan12 (Post 1806239)
No Chris Martin is; the way he plays inside & outside the line of deliveries on middle stump :p

Incidentally, Chris Martin is also the worst at a lot of other things related to batting, its not so much as playing inside and outside the line of the ball as it is just plain old being crapy. Clarke at least is a good player who seems to leave balls alone at strange times don't really think it's a judgement issue just think it's lack of concentration.

Mr Mxyzptlk 30-01-2009 02:55 PM

Concentration often directly affects judgment.

chaminda_00 30-01-2009 04:15 PM

For Clake it is really a concentration thing. I think he only ever scored one double hundred in FC and that was on a road for NSW. He doesn't have many ODI hundreds to his name. Amazing what his record could be if he fixed that minor error in his game.

howardj 30-01-2009 08:31 PM

Haydos, early doors in his career, was a shocking leaver!

I think, for the record, Pup's most embarrassing leave was against Simon Jones, Ashes 2005.

Granted though, that was a peach of a ball.

Precambrian 30-01-2009 08:53 PM

Clarke is certainly one among the worst leavers.

I think Wasim Jaffer is a worthy contender. Some of his leaves are just bamboozling stuff. Many times he got bowled to such leaves.

R_D 30-01-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by howardj (Post 1806352)
Haydos, early doors in his career, was a shocking leaver!

I think, for the record, Pup's most embarrassing leave was against Simon Jones, Ashes 2005.

Granted though, that was a peach of a ball.

was going to mention that one... come to think of it.. he has misjudged fair few times now


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