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    You pick a team for five days of the Test match - not the first innings, and definitely not on the off chance that you win the toss and bowl first. Therefore, to go with four quicks and not include a frontline spinner is madness I reckon.

    Thus, with McGain in the team, the fifth bowler, especially at Johannesburg, should probably be a seam-up merchant. = Macca.

    These I think should be the two principles that guide the selectors for the first test.

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    Series Result: South Africa 2-1
    Top SA Runscorer: Kallis
    Top Aus Runscorer: Hussey
    Top SA Wicket-taker Steyn
    Top Aus Wicket-taker Johnson
    Player of the Series: Steyn
    Surprise Packet Hughes
    Dropped Player(s): McGain, Bollinger, McKenzie
    Miscellaneous Event: Clarke to be sent home with a sore back

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Well TBF you normally have Bracken in the lineup.
    Still would, point being that's the team from the people who have a remote chance of playing.
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    I'll say

    Series Result: Draw 1-1
    Top SA Runscorer: AB De Villiers
    Top Aus Runscorer: Simon Katich
    Top SA Wicket-taker: Dale Steyn
    Top Aus Wicket-taker: Peter Siddle
    Player of the Series: Dale Steyn
    Surprise Packet: Bryce McGain
    Dropped Player(s): One of the SA bowlers will make way for Tsotsobe at some stage
    Miscellaneous Event: Australia will use the same 11 for each of the tests


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    Series Result: Australia 2-1
    Top SA Runscorer: H. Amla
    Top Aus Runscorer: R. Ponting
    Top SA Wicket-taker: M. Morkel
    Top Aus Wicket-taker: P. Siddle
    Player of the Series: R. Ponting
    Surprise Packet: M. Morkel and M. North
    Dropped Player(s): Not sure, however, I'll go for D. Bollinger and surprisngly JP Duminy with Prince his replacement.
    Miscellaneous Event: Titty flash on TV, hopefully not Siddle's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    You pick a team for five days of the Test match - not the first innings, and definitely not on the off chance that you win the toss and bowl first. Therefore, to go with four quicks and not include a frontline spinner is madness I reckon.

    Thus, with McGain in the team, the fifth bowler, especially at Johannesburg, should probably be a seam-up merchant. = Macca.

    These I think should be the two principles that guide the selectors for the first test.
    PEWS did some interesting analysis not long back- as it turns out, fast bowling is still quite a bit more effective than spin bowling in the third and fourth innings.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    Why is McGain too risky?

    As much as I personally don't rate McGain, anything other than

    Phil Hughes
    Simon Katich
    Ricky Ponting
    Michael Hussey
    Michael Clarke
    Marcus North
    Brad Haddin
    Mitchell Johnson
    Peter Siddle
    Bryce McGain
    Doug Bollinger

    would be pretty silly imo. Have posted this same line-up since the middle of the summer aswell.
    Picking McGain as part of 4-man attack is risky because the likely 3 seamers aren't a McGrath/Gillespie/Kasper like combo in ability.

    All are obviously inexperienced, along with McGain who aint nor Warne or MacGill. So picking such an attack, Australia are definately at a disadvantage to SA batsmen. Its going to another repeat of the home series, since thats not learning from the mistakes that where made with the bowling selections.

    I have said it many times, but 4-seamers is the best balance for the 1st test. I'd love to see McGain start, but overall its not the best option.

    If After the 1st test though, as Ponting wisely said the other day. The quicks step up like how McGrath, Reifell, Juilian stepped up in 95 & surprise the saffies, then throw McGain into the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Picking McGain as part of 4-man attack is risky because the likely 3 seamers aren't a McGrath/Gillespie/Kasper like combo in ability.

    All are obviously inexperienced, along with McGain who aint nor Warne or MacGill. So picking such an attack, Australia are definately at a disadvantage to SA batsmen. Its going to another repeat of the home series, since thats not learning from the mistakes that where made with the bowling selections.

    I have said it many times, but 4-seamers is the best balance for the 1st test. I'd love to see McGain start, but overall its not the best option.

    If After the 1st test though, as Ponting wisely said the other day. The quicks step up like how McGrath, Reifell, Juilian stepped up in 95 & surprise the saffies, then throw McGain into the action.
    I gather what you're saying, then, is that McGain's selection is, to an extent, tied to McDonald's. If they play McDonald, would you be more inclined to pick McGain?

    I don't think it's an easy question for the selectors. North would appear more likely to score runs than McDonald, but McDonald more likely to take wickets than North, despite the latter's 6-for in the tour match. And I wouldn't have thought even North would consider himself a front-line spinner.

    As much as I'd think North would be perhaps more likely to play medium-to-long-term at number 6 for Australia than McDonald, in this instance, wouldn't the more attacking move be to play McDonald as part of a five man attack?

    It seems to me that playing a 6th specialist batsman and a four man attack in circumstances where we've struggled to knock SA over at home, let alone away, is basically telling the opposition we'd be content to draw the first test rather than have a crack.
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    Meh, all this is irrelevant. You play your 6 best batsmen and 4 best bowlers. If Bollinger, Siddle and Johnson can't get the job done then what's Ronnie gonna do. North has to play in front of McDonald, and I'm fairly surprised another batsman hasn't been called up to cover for Clarke - North and McDonald both in the middle order could be dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggy31 View Post
    Meh, all this is irrelevant. You play your 6 best batsmen and 4 best bowlers.
    Yeah, but it's not going to happen.
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    Hey guys, does anyone think Hughes looks like a southpaw Michael Clarke batting stance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inbox24 View Post
    Hey guys, does anyone think Hughes looks like a southpaw Michael Clarke batting stance?

    Can certainly see it in that shot, but in terms of stance, set up, etc., I really don't think he's much like him.

    Edit: hope he bats like Clarke has for the past year or so

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    He defo does in that pic, but not IRL.

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    That pic looks like a mirror image of M.Clarke

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    Well D'acosta has had a lot to do with the both of them.



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