And when nobody else would tour Pakistan, weren't we who took the initiative and toured there in the past? Why are you stating only the losses and not the gains?
here is the reason why i believe that.. BCCI wants PCB to be under his power.. they want PCB to have financial probelms so they can come and ask them for the help.. in return what BCCI wants is to ban all ICL players from Playing international cricket for pakistan.. PCB is soo stupied that they are willing to Sacrifice the career of such playes like razaq and yousuf to keep BCCI happy.. i mean where else you see this type of stupidity.. i mean New zealand is another country that i can name that they lost one of their best player shane bond to ICL.. other cricket boards.. would never ever do that..
The best test match ever
I don't understand how this thread turned into PCB vs. BCCI debate.
In the ongoing Quaid-e-Azam trophy Arafat took 9-38 while good to see Afridi got a 10 ball duck
In one post you say BCCI is interfering with PCB's activities.
Next post you say BCCI must try and get other nations play in Pakistan.
Get some perspective first man. And PCB ran into financial troubles long back even before the recent cancellations started taking place. If am not terribly wrong, they were in serious trouble in 2004, and were bailed out when we toured there, the first tour of us there in ages. BCCI did what it can to increase confidence of other non-Asian nations to participate in the Champions Trophy by actively participating in the Asia Cup.
With all this, what is it getting in return? Nothing but dire stick from ungrateful guys like you. Why should BCCI care its arse to help out PCB by "making" Australia tour Pakistan? It is absolutely none of its business. Get a life dude.
BCCI should get exactly this sort of ungrateful comments from Pakistani people.
Had it nudged one of it's fingers, none of the nations would have toured Pakistan and the Asia Cup scheduled in India or Sri Lanka on the premise of security. Despite all the anti-Pak pressure at home, BCCI decided to go ahead and participate in that. BCCI can do well without Pakistan's vote in the ICC. What does PCB think? Even CA and ECB have become close to BCCI. So PCB has no virtual "bloc" to go to,
And how many times BCCI saved PCB's arses by scheduling a tour every one year since 2004, that it has become boring? Who but India have toured Pakistan most times in the last one decade???
Just one tour they didnt do because of direct instruction from the Indian Government. Yet the brickbats are up.
FYI India is not the only nation that has toured Pakistan. SL, Zim and Bangladesh have toured Pak on their own accord and currently SL were on tour despite a disapproval from the India govt, so yes there are even limitations to BCCI bullishness. Can you elaborate on why the pressure BCCI had at home for their Asia cup tour. It would have been pretty ridiculous for a country to cancel a cricket tour for security reasons when in their own country terrorist are gun trotting freely on sub ways, train stations and hotel lobbies.
Yes! BCCI can do well without a PCB vote now and hence the sudden change in stance, the money making potential of IPL has forced the ECB and CA to go to bed with BCCI thus completely eliminating the need of having an Asian Bloc stance, before that everybody knows it was Asian Bloc vs others and BCCI needed PCB support asmuch as PCB needed BCCI's support.
As for yearly scheduling of tours, again no ass saving done as much as you want to believe, that was just to cover for the FTP since Pak and India had not played for past five years and the series were highly lucrative for BCCI so it was just a case of you scratch my back and I scratch yours.
Last edited by Xuhaib; 29-01-2009 at 10:00 AM.
First of all, it's unfunny when you refer me to with that irritating name.
Secondly, you say my post is crap, yet gives no proof to establish the same.
Thirdly, please read my post carefully. I said, "who toured Pakistan most times". Bangers and Zimb toured there for the ODIs. India have toured there atleast 2 times and hosted them 2 times in the last years, full series that is, test series. So, you say India has done nothing in regards to improving Pakistan's finances + image? Blah.
first of all i never said BCCI must try and get other nations play in pakistan.. i said if they wanted.. just as they wanted england to tour india right after Mumbai terriost attack.. it isn't my fault when you can't draw perspective despite me trying to clearly explaining my position. i may have said that if BCCI wants to be a supporter of PCB.. they should try to get them afew tours..but it is the other way.. the recently cancel their tour.. so more financial crises and more control over PCB by BCCI due to financial reasons..
it seems like you you want to go back and talk about PCB and BCCI relationship before 2004 how about this.. around late 2000 and 2001 india denied playing with pakistan at any occation no mater what kind of tournment it was.. they also cancel their tour of pakistan.. don't u think that Cause PCB money and financial loss. So you r saying BCCI Bailed PCB out when they were the reason at fist when pakistan went to that financial crises.. and PCB should be thankful for it.. it is like ..hey we screwed you at first but we are bailing you out so you should be thankful for that..
Last edited by haroon510; 29-01-2009 at 02:42 PM.
I completely agree with the article from cricinfo that fusion posted. I think pcb really need to understand the ground realities, they can only push a team to come and play to a certain level, if it doesn’t work out then they have to settle with something which is best for both teams i.e. neutral venue. looking at the current political scenario, the situation in Pakistan is not going to get any better in the next 3-5 years, in fact its likely to get worse(hope I am proved wrong) so they have to start looking for alternatives.
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