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| Australia |
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7 | 33.33% |
| Bangladesh |
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0 | 0% |
| England |
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1 | 4.76% |
| India |
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4 | 19.05% |
| New Zealand |
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2 | 9.52% |
| Pakistan |
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0 | 0% |
| South Africa |
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3 | 14.29% |
| Sri Lanka |
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1 | 4.76% |
| West Indies |
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3 | 14.29% |
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The Top 9 ODI Nations
Since the start of 2008 we have seen the balance of power in one day internationals shift heavily. Australia's throne is no longer secure and the fight for the new top nation before the WC begun. In this time Bangladesh have become a team worthy of consideration at home (mostly due to the efforts of Shakib who was recently related the best one day all-rounder in the world) and even England won one or two abroad.
If you judge the best nation by their win/loss ratio the table reads as follows: Pakistan 2.60 New Zealand 2.50 South Africa 2.40 Australia 2.33 India 2.25 Sri Lanka 0.84 England 0.54 West Indies 0.20 Bangladesh 0.09 This table shows a massive void between the top 5 and the bottom 4, yet we recently saw Sri Lanka beat Pakistan and both the West Indies and Bangladesh (at home) push New Zealand only to be beaten in a close contest. If instead we look at the averages runs per wicket what does the table show? Pakistan 38.97 South Africa 38.54 India 34.78 New Zealand 32.95 Australia 30.58 England 29.97 Sri Lanka 27.94 West Indies 25.89 Bangladesh 20.30 Pakistan once again is well on top again followed by South Africa. Instead what if we compared the scores by the team and against the team over the period and see which team has been most dominant.(NR excluded) Australia 237.15 vs. Opposition 190.75= +46.4 Sri Lanka 214 vs. Opposition 192.63= +21.37 South Africa 222.82 vs. Opposition 216.59= +6.23 India 236.46 vs. Opposition 231.69= =+4.77 New Zealand 208.27 vs. Opposition 207.6= +0.67 England 220.78 vs. Opposition 220.94= -0.16 Pakistan 238.17 vs. Opposition 244.39= -6.22 West Indies 213.5 vs. Opposition 229.94= -16.44 Bangladesh 178.54 vs. Opposition 231.46= -52.92 While these figures favor matches won by batting first it shows a very different table to what we have previously seen if we dissect it even further we find that in terms of average totals the best teams have been: Pakistan 238 Australia 237 India 236 South Africa 223 England 221 Sri Lanka 214 West Indies 214 New Zealand 208 Bangladesh 179 And in terms of bowling: Australia 191 Sri Lanka 193 New Zealand 208 South Africa 217 England 221 West Indies 230 Bangladesh 231 India 232 Pakistan 244 From these figures we learn that when Australia win they win by a lot, and that when Pakistan lose they get absolutely hammered (averaging -6.22 runs a match despite winning 2.6 to every loss!). That Sri Lanka despite being on a losing streak skittle out their opposition for next to nothing more often than not and that India, South Africa and New Zealand are very solid in both their batting and bowling. So who is the best in the world today and who will be the best a year from now? As an avid cricket fan I really can't tell. And I enjoy that, the competition between all the teams, that we never really know who is going to win. |
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Probably leaning towards SA, but they're not exactly rock solid the whole way through (absence of Smith doesn't help).
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I don't think South Africa's bowling is quite strong enough and their batting isn't quite solid enough to make this a non-issue. India have a similar problem, though I'd probably back a full strength Indian team in a years time to be the best in the world.
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:Very un-Athlai like. Where did this get copied and pasted from?
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But Australia is an old team and full strength is something that they seem to have taken for granted, because while you may have the best first XI in cricket do you have the best 20? |
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If they were all fit:
Watson Marsh Ponting Clarke Symonds Hussey Haddin Lee Johnson Bracken Clark Would be the best ODI side in the world, IMO.
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I think Australia still are a pretty strong ODI unit, there are problems with the test side, but i think the ODI side is still pretty strong and the Aussies would just be fine, once the ODI side is back to full strength and the new blokes settle down.
Among the teams that are most likely to challenge Australia are India and South Africa, India have a very strong batting line-up atm, with good bowlers to back them, and the South African side are very strong in the bowling department and when Smith comes back they would have a decent batting line-up too. |
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How much longer does an XI like that have to play at its peak? Can it still? |
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