LongHopCassidy
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Warner offering more bowling depth, IMO.You the same bloke pushing for Warner to get blooded into the side ahead of White?
Warner offering more bowling depth, IMO.You the same bloke pushing for Warner to get blooded into the side ahead of White?
Warner's leg spin is probably at about the same level as White's...Warner offering more bowling depth, IMO.
Michael Hussey opening in this ODI is a good indication, I reckon.
:facepalm:I was thinking exactly the same thing. Permanent move in both forms for Hussey.
If not. I'd go Jaques, Rodgers & Huges in that order.
Klinger arguably. Otherwise, AWTA.:facepalm:
Why oh why would they move Hussey when he's in the middle of his first serious form slump and they have Jaques, Hughes and Rogers to choose from. If the selectors do that they're even more stupid that the selection of White in India suggests. Who are the middle order batsmen who are making a better case for inclusion at the minute than Hughes and Rogers?
Jaques if he is fit and scoring runs for Blues, otherwise it has to be Hughes, Rogers is 32 and i really don't think he is a long term option, feel bad for him though as he has been a consistent performer but i think he has missed the bus.
Shaun Marsh seriously doesn't have the technique to be a test opener, so he should stop trying to convert himself into one, he should rather concentrate of getting into the middle-order of the Aussie test side.
Michael Hussey and Stuart Clark disagree with this type of thinking.The guy is 32 already. What's the point? I guess it's not fair to him to pass him over, but if Australia don't want another Dad's Army with superstars all retiring at once, there's only Hughes to consider. If they really want to go with someone older, it's obviously gotta be Jaques - he has proven himself at the highest level.
Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara, Waugh - these guys were playing when they were still kids. Australia shouldn't make the same mistake again.
Get your palm away from my face.:facepalm:
Why oh why would they move Hussey when he's in the middle of his first serious form slump and they have Jaques, Hughes and Rogers to choose from. If the selectors do that they're even more stupid that the selection of White in India suggests. Who are the middle order batsmen who are making a better case for inclusion at the minute than Hughes and Rogers?
thatsnotwhatitmeans.jpgGet your palm away from my face.
At 32, he could theoretically play for 4-6 years before making way for the likes of Hughes or Marsh.
Mike Hussey ad Stuey Clark were both 30 when they were picked, Rogers has one more thing that goes against him, he is basically a batsman in the same mould as Katich, who likes to take his time to score his runs, now Australia would want atleast one aggressive test opener, and in Jaques they have that option, but seriously with Matty Hayden gone, if now Jaques proves his fitness and form, then there shouldn't even be a debate about who should be Katich' opening partner, it has to be Jaques, he has done well in test match cricket so far and he deserves the first gig.Michael Hussey and Stuart Clark disagree with this type of thinking.
At 32, he could theoretically play for 4-6 years before making way for the likes of Hughes or Marsh.
Ok, the philosophy of a good team without quality allrounders is is 7 batsman and 4 bowlers. At the moment the selectors are deadset on Marsh at the top come hell or high water, so that place is locked in. This leaves another openining position up for grabs. Now down the order we have only ONE more position on offer if we were to stick to the formula of 7/4, considering if we play White, he doesn't offer anything with the ball so he's a specialist batsman essentially. So why not instead play Hopes there at least he come offer something with the ball. Hence:You the same bloke pushing for Warner to get blooded into the side ahead of White?
I'm being generous in giving him 4 years to string five good scores together at one point or another.
Take it this is for ODIs...Ok, the philosophy of a good team without quality allrounders is is 7 batsman and 4 bowlers. At the moment the selectors are deadset on Marsh at the top come hell or high water, so that place is locked in. This leaves another openining position up for grabs. Now down the order we have only ONE more position on offer if we were to stick to the formula of 7/4, considering if we play White, he doesn't offer anything with the ball so he's a specialist batsman essentially. So why not instead play Hopes there at least he come offer something with the ball. Hence:
Warner
Marsh
Ponting
Hussey
Hussey
Haddin
Hopes
Hauritz (although a good fast bowler should be here)
Bracken
Tait
Hilfenhaus
I know it's quite contradictory sticking to the specialist's 7/4 formula then going for extra bowling with Hopes, but what the heck. When Symonds comes back, he can displace Hopes. When Clarke comes back he'll probably have to displace Hussey.
Bit sensitive of you to take offence tbh...Get your palm away from my face.
I didn't think that is what they should do, but got the idea when I saw Hussey going out to bat. Quite rude of you tbh.
Got a thing for Rangas?None of my business being a Pom, but surely Phil Jaques should the next cab off the rank. Consistent performer, either in State cricket or County cricket, and will get even better on the Test scene with an assurance over his place and a few more big scores behind him.
Feel sorry for Chris Rogers, was pretty here in England last year, and has obviously had a fantastic Sheffield Shield so far but at 32 it may be just too late. Best chance is through injuries to fellow openers.
While the selection of Phil Hughes or Shaun Marsh are exciting options, due to their age and promise, I agree that Marsh will not be a Test opener, and it may be too soon for Hughes with the importance of this years cricket.Although admittedly I have not seen nearly enough of these two in the longer forms of the game to make a totally sound judgement.