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    Mickey Arthur

    The coach of South Africa has been a key stone behind their success in the last 1.5 years. His insightful analysis of subcontinental conditions helped them to win 2 series and draw 1 there. And now that his team has bested in Australia, I think he has done a fantastic job so far.

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    Uhhhh..... what's the discussion?

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    Helped to have such a talented group of players to coach too.
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    Yup and its not as if this group has had unparalleled success all of a sudden, they have stuck with a core group of talented players, they have had their lows and highs, but they didn't do much chopping and changing and they are reaping the rich divedends now, i think Aussie selectors can take a leaf out of the book of their South African counter-parts.


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    Unprecedented success

    Apparently this SA team has not lost a series since Nov 06. Clearly Mickey and Smith have combined well.

    A doubt, At 27, is Smith the youngest ever captain to win a series in Australia?

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    Mickey Arthur's cleverly turned into a complete wanker, so his captain doesn't have to be & can concentrate on his cricket. It's the SA quota system in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Helped to have such a talented group of players to coach too.
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    Yup and its not as if this group has had unparalleled success all of a sudden, they have stuck with a core group of talented players, they have had their lows and highs, but they didn't do much chopping and changing and they are reaping the rich divedends now, i think Aussie selectors can take a leaf out of the book of their South African counter-parts.
    Tbf, they've always had a talented group of players. This may actually be the least talented for ten years in fact, and Arthur has to take some of the credit for turning talent into success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Mickey Arthur's cleverly turned into a complete wanker, so his captain doesn't have to be & can concentrate on his cricket. It's the SA quota system in action.
    like some of the australian opposition aren't ? give me a break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rant0r View Post
    like some of the australian opposition aren't ? give me a break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Tbf, they've always had a talented group of players. This may actually be the least talented for ten years in fact, and Arthur has to take some of the credit for turning talent into success.
    Looking at the South African team from 10 years ago, I'd take Kirsten over McKenzie, and that's probably about it in terms of batting.

    I'd be interested to see if either Donald or Pollock had a year as prolific as Steyn's 2008 was either.

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    pollock's career was like a flash to me, his peak must have came at a time when i wasn't watching as much cricket, because BAM he's played 100 odd tests captained his country and retired. shame really, donald was pretty good, he would have started a lot earlier too if not for the apartheid ban, he would have been ready to go at 22 probably.

    i reckon either of them would have had a fat at the season steyn just had though, albeit inflated by bangladesh

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    Shaun Pollock

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Looking at the South African team from 10 years ago, I'd take Kirsten over McKenzie, and that's probably about it in terms of batting.

    I'd be interested to see if either Donald or Pollock had a year as prolific as Steyn's 2008 was either.
    Shaun Pollock had a sterling run from 1998 to 2002 when he took 229 wickets from just 53 tests at amazing average of 20!!!

    http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/...s;type=bowling

    Incidentally his best years as a test batsman were from 2001-2003 when he scored 1256 runs from 26 test matches at an average of 54.60!!

    http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/...s;type=batting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rant0r View Post
    pollock's career was like a flash to me, his peak must have came at a time when i wasn't watching as much cricket, because BAM he's played 100 odd tests captained his country and retired. shame really, donald was pretty good, he would have started a lot earlier too if not for the apartheid ban, he would have been ready to go at 22 probably.

    i reckon either of them would have had a fat at the season steyn just had though, albeit inflated by bangladesh
    Pollock's golden run from 98 to 03 had nothing to do with Bangladesh, and Zimbabwe was a reasonably good side during then.

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    Donald's best year was 1998 when he took some 80 odd wickets!
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    Donald 1995-2001

    Quote Originally Posted by kingkallis View Post
    Donald's best year was 1998 when he took some 80 odd wickets!
    In fact, Donald had a stupendous run for 7 seasons starting from 1995-96 to 2000-01, wherein he took 241 wickets from 50 tests at an astounding average of 19.95!

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    That there was no Bangaldesh or a declining Zimbabwe in that makes it more grand.

    His worst average during that period (opponent wise) was against Australia - 23.43

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