Daniel Vettori vs Richard Hadlee (batting)

[Zinzan]

Sir Hadlee, easily.

Not so sure about easily bud Pretty even for mine, although Vettori has been averaging around 40 in the last 4-5 years whereas Hadlee averaged just over 30 in the second-half of his career. So in test matches, Vettori by a whisker.

In ODI's, I'd take Hadlee. His SR of 75 was better at the time than Vettori's 79 is & he had a better average.

Overall FC, Test & One dayers, I'd take Sir Dick

 

[Athlai]

Hadlee had more talent.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Who do people think is/was the superior batsman?

Duh!

One was Fast medium the other is a left arm spinner so its an unfair comparison.

Probably a pointless dig but I missed out on this at the time.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

For those of you who haven't seen much of Hadlee with the bat; heres one of his better innings, his last test match at Lords just after receiving his knighthood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PSkv96rF4I

Glad this got dug because I missed this before. Interesting viewing.

Seems like a good, upright batsman with lots of shots but not much foot movement. Mitchell Johnson seems pretty similar, actually.

 

[illmatic]

vettori will end up wit battin average of 30+ in test by the time he finishes
and hopefully 20+ in one dayers


i go wit vettori.. tho hadlee does have better stats for onedayers.. and i havent really seen him bat either so its hard to choose him

 

[Zinzan]

Glad this got dug because I missed this before. Interesting viewing.

Seems like a good, upright batsman with lots of shots but not much foot movement. Mitchell Johnson seems pretty similar, actually.

Indeed, I'm glad you had a chance to view it tbh as many folks don't realize what a natural striker of the ball he was, a real shame he didn't take his batting more seriously. Having said that, he wasn't the worst bowler around

 

[zaremba]

Indeed, I'm glad you had a chance to view it tbh as many folks don't realize what a natural striker of the ball he was, a real shame he didn't take his batting more seriously. Having said that, he wasn't the worst bowler around

Good clip, thanks for posting it. I'd suggest people who think that Vettori is the better batsman of the two should watch this - because this sort of batting is way out of DV's league.

 

[Zinzan]

Good clip, thanks for posting it. I'd suggest people who think that Vettori is the better batsman of the two should watch this - because this sort of batting is way out of DV's league.

Your very welcome

 

[JimmyGS]

3 strokes I've seen Hadlee play looked much better than the 3 worst I've ever seen Vettori play so I'll vote for Hadlee methinks.

Your logic continues to baffle me.

 

[Richard]

Your inability to tell the difference between a post that's pretty obviously in jest and one that isn't baffles me far more.

 

[JimmyGS]

I think the majority of the board will agree that, with you, it's not always easy.

 

[Richard]

Not sure about the majority, but there's certainly no shortage of those that would.

Nonetheless, I'm astounded anyone could possibly miss it on the above occasion.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Love listening to Richie in his prime.

Would've been very tough to bowl to in form, the way that he have himself room through the offside, but bowl straight and he was so strong through the leg. Actually reminded me quite a bit of Warner.

 

[Zinzan]

Love listening to Richie in his prime.

Would've been very tough to bowl to in form, the way that he have himself room through the offside, but bowl straight and he was so strong through the leg. Actually reminded me quite a bit of Warner.

Benaud was in particularly good form in that clip

 

[pasag]

Any changed their opinion after today?

 

[Precambrian]

Sir Hadlee, easily.

Sir Richard [/pedantic]

 

[SJS]

The fact that we are comparing Hadlee's batting with Vettori's shows that there is a lot of merit in the argument that Hadlee fell far short of the batting capabilities of his three illustrious contemporaries - Botham, Kapil and Imran.

 

[thierry henry]

Vettori is a serious batsman. He started his career with no batting pretensions and developed to the point where he has averaged near enough 40 for a long period and has taken on an air of dependability when he comes to the crease in a crisis.

His career numbers sell him short as far as evaluating the batsman he has been for the last 5 or so years.

Hadlee also improved his batting output over time, but not by as much.

Vettori as a test match batsman from about 2003/04 onwards> Hadlee, ever.

I don't understand people's discomfort with the comparison, except to put it down to the "last 10 years cringe" syndrome where people aren't sure if they're allowed to take current players seriously or not.

 

[Flem274*]

Vettori is a serious batsman. He started his career with no batting pretensions and developed to the point where he has averaged near enough 40 for a long period and has taken on an air of dependability when he comes to the crease in a crisis.

His career numbers sell him short as far as evaluating the batsman he has been for the last 5 or so years.

Hadlee also improved his batting output over time, but not by as much.

Vettori as a test match batsman from about 2003/04 onwards> Hadlee, ever.

I don't understand people's discomfort with the comparison, except to put it down to the "last 10 years cringe" syndrome where people aren't sure if they're allowed to take current players seriously or not.

Might also be due to the fact that no one questions Sir Richard Hadlee's talent, bat or ball.

 

[thierry henry]

Might also be due to the fact that no one questions Sir Richard Hadlee's talent, bat or ball.

?

Don't get your point

I wouldn't question either Vettori or Hadlee's talent with the bat. Vettori at his "prolonged peak" is better than any prolonged peak that Hadlee had though.