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Dire cricketers who had a successful test career
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krkode
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Isn't this thread sort of talking about the same thing? 
Surely one can't be horrible and still have a successful test career. Or do you mean people who were horrible but played a lot of test matches?
Surely one can't be horrible and still have a successful test career. Or do you mean people who were horrible but played a lot of test matches?
morgieb
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No.Isn't this thread sort of talking about the same thing?
Surely one can't be horrible and still have a successful test career. Or do you mean people who were horrible but played a lot of test matches?
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Sehwag......
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Won't last long.
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But he might not play another game, meaning he'll finish with ridiculously good stats.
Precambrian
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Micheal Atherton.
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Can't wait til Richard sees that.
Richard
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Sehwag's not a poor batsman (even if his Test average flatters him hugely) and his First-Class average too is excellent.
Nonsense.
Richard
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Yeah, really, should be merged IMO.Isn't this thread sort of talking about the same thing?
Precambrian
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Having the least average for all bats who have scored over 6k runs. Retired with a test avg of 37. Was completely at sea against the best quicks in the business. He is English Cricket personified in the 90s.
Dire.
One or two innings of glue-batting (185) won't make him any better, perhaps than Carl Hooper.
Richard
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His Test average is near meaningless given the number of games he played that he should not have done (and that near enough any other player did not play under comparable circumstances)
That couldn't really be more untrue if you tried.
English cricket in the 1990s = lots of good players, results that could've been better with a little bit of good fortune. Yeah, Atherton is the same. But both are far better than many people realise.
Precambrian
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Applies to any batsman who has done well only for a short period of time, yet overall was mediocre. Invalid argument.
There were some good players but overall England were strictly mediocre. And Athers was the perfect example for it. He is way overrated.
Precambrian
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Not even close. The best pace bowlers of that era were from WI, Aus and Pak. Against whom Athers averaged 31, 29 and 41 respectively.
Richard
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Atherton didn't do well for a short period of time. Between 1990 and 2000 (calendar years in full) he averaged 41 when fit. Considering the bowlers he faced this is a superb achievement. There are 90 Tests in this period. Not short at all.
He isn't, he's actually considerably underrated. England were far from outstanding in most of the 1990s, but the way some people speak it was the worst time in the history of English cricket, which it emphatically wasn't.
Richard
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Atherton actually had just 1 bad series against WI and Aus when fit and when established as a good Test player. These came in 1997 and 1998.
Atherton simply faced Australia before he was Test-class once (2 Tests in 1989), after he ceased to be Test-class once (5 Tests in 2001; he also faced SL and Pak in this time and did poorly), and when he was woefully unfit once (1998/99 - he also faced Zimbabwe in 1996/97 in a similar condition and did similarly woefully, proving that the calibre of attack was completely irrelevant and the only reason for his poor performance was lack of fitness). This disguises the fact that there were 21 Tests in which he actually performed perfectly respectably against Australia.
Atherton played one hell of a lot of superb knocks against West Indies. The only series that went by without him playing one at the very least was 1997.