Mithun Manhas --an usung hero????????

[Jonty Lathwal]

Mithun Manhas has been scoring a lot of runs from a decade.....but still has not got even a single match for india.......why??????
Rather than considering young players only.......india selectors should think of these people too


Here is his record:

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50

First-class 102 159 21 5916 205* 42.86 16 29

List A 90 83 27 2893 125* 51.66 3 20


what else they want?????????

 

[Precambrian]

Mithun Manhas has been scoring a lot of runs from a decade.....but still has not got even a single match for india.......why??????
Rather than considering young players only.......india selectors should think of these people too


Here is his record:

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50

First-class 102 159 21 5916 205* 42.86 16 29

List A 90 83 27 2893 125* 51.66 3 20


what else they want?????????

Has done well in ICC rite?

His FC average is not good enough to earn a test call, but am impressed by his OD statistics.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Has done well in ICC rite?

His FC average is not good enough to earn a test call, but am impressed by his OD statistics.

I think a FC average of 42 is enough to get atleast a single chance.....

Abhijit Kale had an average of 60 and Badrinath has around 57......How much did they played????/

 

[Precambrian]

I think a FC average of 42 is enough to get atleast a single chance.....

Abhijit Kale had an average of 60 and Badrinath has around 57......How much did they played????/

Why should they? Our test and ODI spots are fairly filled up now. Why go for him?

42 is strictly a mediocre average in Indian domestic scene.

As you said, Badri himself with an average of 57 is struggling to get into the national team. so Manhas has little chances of even being near.

And the fact that he is 29 now dims all possible chances.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Why should they? Our test and ODI spots are fairly filled up now. Why go for him?

42 is strictly a mediocre average in Indian domestic scene.

As you said, Badri himself with an average of 57 is struggling to get into the national team. so Manhas has little chances of even being near.

And the fact that he is 29 now dims all possible chances.

i don't think age materrs if the player is under 30........U can see examples like Mike Hussey and Stuart Clark ......that's why Aussies are (read were) No. 1.....they look at performance and fitness ,not age......

 

[Precambrian]

i don't think age materrs if the player is under 30........U can see examples like Mike Hussey and Stuart Clark ......that's why Aussies are (read were) No. 1.....they look at performance and fitness ,not age......

You forget Hussey was the best batsman in Sheffield Shield for years before he was drafted into the test squad.

Manhas is nowhere near that, and there are many domestic players who have performed far better than him, like Aakash Chopra, Badri etc

 

[krkode]

I do think older players shouldn't be completely cut from consideration. A lot of older Aussie cricketers have done really well such as Lehmann and Hussey and will be worth the selection even if they end up playing only 40-50 tests rather than 100-110. Rather have a proven talent who plays 40 matches averaging 45 rather than some teenager who is dropped forever after 5 matches because he couldn't cut it against international cricketers yet. I feel like we're on the hunt for the next Tendulkar, which is a truly fruitless endeavor. We're looking for someone who will last 15-20 years on the scene, instead of first looking for the guys who will last 5-7.

So I do think it is a mistake that Indian selectors turn to players who have done well in tournaments like the U-19 world cup rather than players who have consistently performed over the years and have stellar FC averages on display. RS Sodhi is an example of this who was man of the series for the U-19 world cup he participated in. Played in a few games and then promptly disappeared (Kaif was his captain and did a little better, I suppose). Yuvraj is the only one still remaining in any sort of international consideration from that WC-winning squad.

That said, in looking for the guys with good FC averages when trying to replace test players, there are plenty of older players on the Indian scene who are deserving of a chance ahead of Manhas. As has been mentioned before, when it comes to Indian domestic cricket, 42 is decidedly ordinary. Yes, his OD record is impressive, but 1/3 of his innings end in not-outs. Then again, his record is still better than Yusuf Pathan's List A record it would seem, but then again, Yusuf I believe came into the spotlight after performing in the IPL which Manhas seems to have played in but didn't perform as well. Another questionable selection tactic, but I'm happy to give Pathan the benefit of the doubt for now... always nice not to mess with a winning side.

 

[silentstriker]

I think a FC average of 42 is enough to get atleast a single chance.....

Not even close. As someone said, Badri averages in the high fifties, and now, so do guys like Pujara. Hard to go past someone averaging 58 with three triple centuries, for example, to a guy averaging 42.

 

[Migara]

Mithun who?

 

[Manee]

Mithun who?

Manhas.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Interesting that average of 51 with just 3 centuries in 90 matches.

 

[Manee]

A product of a lot of not outs.

 

[Richard]

Seems very sore indeed that he's never got a ODI chance while the likes of Suresh Raina and Rohit Sharma have been promoted prematurely.

Clearly not that good at the longer game though - as stated, 42 isn't an especially good First-Class average in India.

 

[Arjun]

Mithun Manhas isn't that special for the longer version of the game. If you've read up enough numbers, you'd find several batsmen with averages over 50, and he's barely over 40, and doesn't bowl or keep wickets. His OD stats, however, are quite interesting. Let's not forget, most of the List-A ODs played here in India are played in places not even fit for a benefit match, let alone a full-fledged ODI. We've seen several averages under 35, and even under 30, of specialist batsmen, so that makes his stats more impressive. I haven't seen too much of him in OD cricket, and I'm sure nobody depending on television has, but he's possibly one of the better OD batsmen, and surely more worthy of an India cap than several youngsters straight out of the U-19 team. He's a good partnership-builder and very effective between the wickets, as well as on the field, but he's just another specialist batsman otherwise. The Indian team doesn't need any more of these, and already have one too many.

 

[krkode]

Seems very sore indeed that he's never got a ODI chance while the likes of Suresh Raina and Rohit Sharma have been promoted prematurely.

Clearly not that good at the longer game though - as stated, 42 isn't an especially good First-Class average in India.

Pretty much seems like the IPL/U-19 world cup gets you a fast track to the Indian ODI side. I wonder when the last time was where we got an ODI debutant who wasn't part of our U-19 efforts, which are impressive to say the least, but it is still one tournament.

 

[Manee]

Remember reading an article on cricinfo which had in it a statement from a BCCI official saying that the U19 system is favoured as domestic cricket is seen as a stagnation pool for good cricketers.

 

[silentstriker]

Yea, they definitely think like that. The problem is that it's total bull****, as that's what they should be trying to fix, rather than just ignoring it and picking guys who've picked at 19.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Dhoni has FC average in 30's ..but One Day International Average of 45......so now what do you think............He got to indian team beacuse Ganguly had seen him & play gave him a chance........I think commitment on the ground matters more than averages........there are so many examples :-
Jonty Rhodes...averages in early 30's still played a lots of lots matches......beacuse he deserved .......won lots of matches for SA.......

Jayasuriya averages 31........and he is still playing & has played more than 400 ODI'S!!!!!!

So i still go for Manhas........

 

[silentstriker]

So how many times have you seen him?

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

So how many times have you seen him?

There is not much of telecast of FC cricket in India........but a many times beacuse he has been around for a long time.......and also the magazines.......there have been columns on him many a times right from 1999 ......if i remember correctly