Curtly Ambrose--the best ever imo.
Curtly Ambrose--the best ever imo.
Murali perhaps? Especially overseas?
Nah, he had Vaas.
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Last edited by Migara; 06-12-2008 at 04:57 AM.
Hmm, Vaas has a better overseas average than I had thought. Although, iirc, he does tend to not take too many wickets (on a wickets/test basis). Also, I doubt I can include Zoysa and Malinga as they are both, imo, a little too recent to count and have not taken enough wickets or played enough tests (although I might be a little picky here). Murali's ascent to greatness (if I can call it that) began in 97/98 after the home and away series to India (where, iirc, a couple of fearful tonkings from Sidhu made him revise the length he was bowling) and Zoysa and Malinga only begin to figure from 2006 onwards. Vaas, however, was - as you rightly say - there througout.
Also, if we are talking about support, then we should certainly count Chatfield and Cairns who were great foils for Hadlee. Although none of these, Sri Lankan or Kiwi, were or are in the same league as the WI 'support' quicks that Marshall had around him.
Last edited by JBH001; 06-12-2008 at 04:51 PM.
Last edited by bagapath; 06-12-2008 at 10:41 PM.
Yeah, Marshall's career - in terms of who he played alongside - is an interesting one. He first played Test cricket genuinely in 1980 in England, but his first 9 Tests (4 in England in 1980; all 4 in Pakistan in 1980/81; then 1 more at home to England in 1981) all came as a fill-in, when one or more of Roberts, Holding, Garner and Croft were unavailable. He mixed the good with the bad in this time (I'd say he had 3 excellent games, 3 moderate and 3 poor) and overall they produced an average of 26.41.
Croft left the team and in '83, Marshall finally became a first-choice, and on a couple of occasions played alongside Roberts, Holding and Garner in what is surely the best first-choice attack West Indies have ever fielded. However, Garner picked-up a bad injury meaning this lasted just 2 games. By the time he was back, and just 2 series' (both against India) after Marshall became established, Roberts then retired. For the next 3 years it was Marshall, Holding, Garner and someone else. In '84 against Australia and England, it was Baptiste. In '84/85, Walsh debuted. Then Winston Davis returned in '85, then in '86 it was Patrick Patterson debuting. In this "first leg", '83 to '86, Marshall picked-up 181 wickets in 33 matches at 19.64
The "second leg" of Marshall's career begun in '86/87, when Holding and Garner quickly waned and were gone. In the 36 matches comprising it, he picked-up 161 wickets in 36 matches at 20.10. His support acts here were the likes of Tony Gray, Patterson, Walsh, Bishop, Ambrose and Winston Benjamin. None too shabby by any stretch of the imagination, but somehow not quite to my mind in the Holding and Garner league - with the exception of the injury-plagued Bishop and, eventually (but not straight away, and not until Marshall's career was almost over) Ambrose.
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