How bad are the Windies

[roseboy64]

Thing is those young players will have to get jobs eventually and will only get to practice after work and on weekends.Lots of players do that unless they're still in their teens or are in regular contention for international cricket.

 

[Jigga988]

Indeed, it is a massive problem of commitment to the sport of cricket. Various circumstances mean that domestic cricket is not taken seriously and I believe the key is for the WICB to subsidise the development of a fair deal of cricketers - such as the U19 stars. West Indies strength is in the natural physical talent (fast bowlers to be specific) and the availability of many cricketers who bore witness to the 1980s domination of the West Indies. Therefore, the focus must be moved, imo, toward academies in each island where cricketers can be developed.

I'd say the system in West Indies is one 'level' below the Indian system and whereas India must move the focus towards the domestic system, West Indies must look to shift focus toward academies and away from the currently weak domestic system.

Yeah, exactly. There has always been a lot of physical talent in the Windies. This is evident from how a number of the old West Indians would play a number of sports for their island as well as play for the West Indies - Sir Garfield Sobers played about a million different sports for his country. West Indian's physique are suited to alot of different sports and now that the money being pumped in to the academy is so poor, people are turning generally to football and basketball, and the West Indies are losing out on those natural sportsman. This is also having a knock-on effect on crouds, cricket is close to or already is becoming the second or third most popular sport in the carribean.

 

[Rant0r]

i dont think it's a question of just saying why arn't the Windies passionate, it is partly to do with the money pumped in to those who play island cricket. The money is pretty pathetic compared to other places and you'd need a second job to live comfertably. When there is a lot more money pumped in to sports like football, (especially now T&T made the last World cup) then natural athletes in the Caribbean will be more swayed to that rather than cricket.

Yeah, exactly. There has always been a lot of physical talent in the Windies. This is evident from how a number of the old West Indians would play a number of sports for their island as well as play for the West Indies - Sir Garfield Sobers played about a million different sports for his country. West Indian's physique are suited to alot of different sports and now that the money being pumped in to the academy is so poor, people are turning generally to football and basketball, and the West Indies are losing out on those natural sportsman. This is also having a knock-on effect on crouds, cricket is close to or already is becoming the second or third most popular sport in the carribean.

i don't think they care about the game as much anymore, it's now been years since they've had real heroes to emulate, it's a bit different comparing viv, ambrose, marshall, haynes greenidge, walsh dujon to gayle, sarwan, taylor, edwards ramdin, chanderpaul, bravo.

the money wasn't around in that era either, just fame and love for the game, now they have nothing to fall back on as they always played on raw passion rather than training and development at grassroots level, it shouldn't have taken until now to think of this though 'it'll be ok mon'

 

[Richard]

Seems Ambrose never really cared much about the game either, which is interesting. TSTL.

 

[Rant0r]

don't think you'll see amby around the game tutoring young quicks, spose it's hard to teach something that just comes naturally, 'just run in and bowl fast mon'

 

[Richard]

Far more than that, Ambrose as I say just apparently doesn't like the game much and has absolutely no interest in it now he's retired.

 

[Rant0r]

come on, he played beach cricket last year

 

[Richard]

I've played beach "cricket" (which can roughly be translated as taking a blue KC bat and a tennis-ball, no stumps, and maybe 5 or 6 people rotating who swings the bat, who underarms the ball and who stands around having no chance of doing anything but running after the ball) with mates who've never taken the slightest interest in proper organised cricket more than once.

It means nothing.

 

[Rant0r]

sorry, forgot <sarcasm/>

 

[roseboy64]

What's with the mon at the end of every sentence? Stereotype much?