The best spinning combination since 1950

[Precambrian]

WA Johnston was also primarily a seamer and a spinner second.

Yeah, and Cricinfo Stats (the basis of my analysis), puts Johnston as a pace bowler, even though he was bowling spin.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Hmm it reads as

Marc asked
"So you're trying to tell us that the likes of Max Walker, Chris Old, Simon Davis, Mike Whitney, Adam Dale, Vic Marks and John Lever are all better bowlers than ANY current bowler?"
You replied
"Most of them, yes, rather obviously, but not Dale"

 

[Matt79]

Any reason for the post-1950 timeframe? Because the turn of the century Saffies and O'Reilly and Grimmett would be strong contenders for this...

 

[Richard]

Hmm it reads as

Marc asked
"So you're trying to tell us that the likes of Max Walker, Chris Old, Simon Davis, Mike Whitney, Adam Dale, Vic Marks and John Lever are all better bowlers than ANY current bowler?"
You replied
"Most of them, yes, rather obviously, but not Dale"

Hmm, you could read it that way I guess (and I suppose only Neily Pickmeister has been for the last 4 years - and loving doing so, naturally). However, the "most of them apart from Dale" bit refers to the last line of Marc's post (rare to see a Marc post being more than a one-liner I know).

 

[Richard]

Any reason for the post-1950 timeframe? Because the turn of the century Saffies and O'Reilly and Grimmett would be strong contenders for this...

Presumably the fact that those two were so strong they were almost certainly stronger than anyone else.

As it is, Lock and Laker - given they were so good they had conditions tailor-made for them as often as possible, not that it was even neccessary to try sometimes given rules and weather conditions of the time (there were any number of notoriously wet summers in the 1950s) - really were way more successful than anyone else in the timeframe in question. I dread to think how effective the Bedi-Chandra-Prasanna triumvarate would've been had they had such an advantage.

 

[ret]

Chandrasekar/Bedi/Prasanna (Ind) (1967-78)- 24 matches, 266 wickets @ 30.8 SR-74

^ that one

 

[Precambrian]

Any reason for the post-1950 timeframe? Because the turn of the century Saffies and O'Reilly and Grimmett would be strong contenders for this...

Presumably the fact that those two were so strong they were almost certainly stronger than anyone else.

As it is, Lock and Laker - given they were so good they had conditions tailor-made for them as often as possible, not that it was even neccessary to try sometimes given rules and weather conditions of the time (there were any number of notoriously wet summers in the 1950s) - really were way more successful than anyone else in the timeframe in question. I dread to think how effective the Bedi-Chandra-Prasanna triumvarate would've been had they had such an advantage.

More to do with the fact that pre-ww2 cricket was much different from post-war, and also considering the fact that cricket was generally limited to Aus, Eng and SA during that period. Then, as Richard mentioned, the obvious case of the nature of uncovered pitches. And then, the case of timeless tests.

Finally, the ease of analysis. I was after going through the cricinfo statsguru tables.

 

[Precambrian]

Glad atleast one person has gone for Qasim/Qadir duo. They are underrated imho. Esp considering the fact that they operated in an era, when Pakistan bowling was very much Imran and spin.

 

[Migara]

I can't believe Chandra did not spin the ball more out of the two - but both were said to have spun it less than your "typical" (read Warne or Grimmett) wristspinner, and also to have been much quicker through the air than most spinners - similar in pace to a fingerspinner like Derek Underwood.

Chandra was very quick. Quicker than Underwood. Comparison would be very much better with O'Riely's pace, where he sent them close to medium pace.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Chandra was very quick. Quicker than Underwood..

At what? Running the 100 metres?

 

[Neil Pickup]

Hmm, you could read it that way I guess (and I suppose only Neily Pickmeister has been for the last 4 years - and loving doing so, naturally). However, the "most of them apart from Dale" bit refers to the last line of Marc's post (rare to see a Marc post being more than a one-liner I know).

I'm going to keep reading it like that.

 

[NZTailender]

On that note, Neil Pickup and Tom Halsey.

 

[Migara]

At what? Running the 100 metres?

 

[Richard]

I'm going to keep reading it like that.

Looks more like Jasper Carrot there than anyone.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

No one could possibly be stupid enough to say that Chandra bowled faster than Derek Underwood so I presume you had something else in mind.