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  • Allan Border

    11 22.92%
  • Mark Taylor

    23 47.92%
  • Steve Waugh

    12 25.00%
  • Ricky Ponting

    0 0%
  • Adam Gilchrist

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  • Kevin Ruud

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Thread: The best Australian Test Captain in the last Quarter Century

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    The best Australian Test Captain in the last Quarter Century

    It's 24 something years since Allan Border took over Australian captaincy and started the Great Dynasty which has seen just 3 regular captains to date. So, who's been the best (not necessarily the most successful)?

    Allan Robert Border (1984-94)

    Captained Australia through the dark period of 1980s. Took over captaincy reluctantly from Kim Hughes, and marred by player defections to rebel team who toured SA, lost the 1985 Ashes and the 1986-87 Ashes. Started the rebuilding of the side with Bob Simpson, and captained Aus to an unexpected win in 1987 and regained the Ashes in 1989 which they retained till the end of his career. However he could not acheive a series win over Windies during his tenure and ended his career in 1994. He captained Australia in 93 tests which is a record.

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    Played	Won	Lost	Tied	Drawn	Win%
    93	32	22	1	38	34%

    Mark Anthony Taylor (1994-99)

    Wikipedia says, "In contrast to his predecessor Allan Border, who acquired the nickname 'Captain Grumpy', Taylor won plaudits for his always cheerful and positive demeanour". Took over from AB in 1994, and continued the rebuilding of the Australian Team. Started with an away loss of 1-0 to Pakistan, Australia retained the Ashes and then famously captained them to a 2-1 victory in the Carribean, which saw them regain the Frank Worrel Trophy after a gap of 22 years, and with that the crown of World Champions. In al, he captained Australia in 50 tests, and ended up with an impressive win ratio of 52%,

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    Played	Won	Lost	Tied	Drawn	Win%
    50	26	13	0	11	52%

    Stephen Rodger Waugh (1999-2004)

    Widely credited as the captained under which Australia peaked as a team, and virtually revolutionised Test cricket with aggressive cricket with a no-draw approach and established firmly Australia's stature as World Champions with the help of stalwarts like Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne, Ricky Ponting and Adam Gilchrist. He won test series everywhere in the world except for India, which he described as the "Final Frontier". He captained Australia in 57 tests, leading them to victory in 41 of them, including a record 16 straight wins.

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    Played	Won	Lost	Tied	Drawn	Win%
    57	41	9	0	7	72%

    Ricky Thomas Ponting (2004-)

    Ricky Ponting inherited captaincy from Waugh in early 2004 and a team at its peak, and is perhaps the most successful captain in the history of cricket. He, however became the first captain to lose the Ashes in 2005 since Allan Border in 86-87. But Australia emphatically regained it in 2006-07 with a 5-0 whitewash, post which he lost the services of eminent players like McGrath, Warne, Langer, Gilchrist etc. He has captained Australia to wins everywhere, except India, where he is currently in the bid with a new-look team, which is in the process of rebuilding.

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    Played	Won	Lost	Tied	Drawn	Win%
    46	33	5	0	8	72%

    Adam Craig Gilchrist

    The wicketkeeper batsman captained Australia in 6 tests, 2 as stand-in for Steve Waugh and 4 for Ponting. Australia won 4 out of these tests, including 2 over India in 2004, which ultimately resulted them winning that series 2-1, the first time they did so since 1969.

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    Played	Won	Lost	Tied	Drawn	Win%
    6	4	1	0	1	67%
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    I think Mark Taylor takes the cake, as it is under him that the pillars of modern Aussie cricket, McG, Warney, Punter etc evolved into the world beaters.

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    Mark Taylor has always been my favourite Australian Captain. Loved the way he played the game and captained the side. Steve Waugh comes in at a close second. Gilchrist is one of my favourite players but he didn't captain for a long enough period of time for me to evaluate his performance. So Taylor wins it overall with Waugh coming in at second place.
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    Mark Taylor, legend.
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    Taylor, Waugh and Border were all excellent captains

    Border, whist tactically inept, singlehandedly changed the culture of Australian cricket and dragged the team back from the abyss through sheer will power

    Taylor was tactically brilliant but despite a couple of great performances, was carried in the team for long stretches as a player

    Waugh was tough, aggressive and led a great team from the front

    I'll go for Waugh as I have the traditional Austraian belief that you pick your 11 best players and then select a captain.

    Unfortunately, there were times during his reign that Taylor simply should not have been picked as a player

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    Taylor pretty easily for me. The best captain I've ever seen in my time watching cricket.
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    taylor easily the best, border for his inspirational leadership during a dark period in aussie cricket comes 2nd for me, waugh third...

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    Taylor. Second only to Cronje among all the captains I have seen.

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    gone for AB. for rebuilding a young team into world beaters.

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    Taylor for me as well, but should have been Shane Warne

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    Judging purely on their Captaining skills, then yes, Taylor is ahead.
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    I took Steve Waugh, I thought he re-invented the way teams play Test cricket, it made the idea of five days for a Test seem like kids having six months off for holidays, far too long

    Although he did not always seem to have a plan B
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    I took Steve Waugh, I thought he re-invented the way teams play Test cricket, it made the idea of five days for a Test seem like kids having six months off for holidays, far too long

    Although he did not always seem to have a plan B
    Actually its a tough one between Border, Taylor and Waugh. They all got the team at different stages of its rise to world domination and each brought something to the entire process.

    I chose Taylor because he got the team about halfway or lower. Border fought and used a lot of his personal example to push the team slowly upwards from near rock bottom. He ensured that the team did not completely disintegrate in what can be termed a cricketing 'depression' of the type West Indies cricket has faced and Lara has proved unequal to pull them out of. But Taylor made the entire team work at different levels - much higher than where he got them. Both had a job to do.

    Waugh got a near finished product but gave the finishing touches which included the supreme confidence bordering on arrogance which made them play, even in the rare moments of crisis, as if they were right on top of the world with not a care in the world. It was an important job but I feel Taylor had the tougher job to do and did it completely without fuss and almost anonymously.
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