View Poll Results: Were you happy to see Ireland defeat Pakistan in the 2007 ODI World Cup?

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    Quick question

    In response to a discussion in another thread and a suggestion by andyc I decided to open this thread and poll, just to see what people on CW think.

    Oh, and due to the seriousness of the question there is no irrelevant 3rd option.
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    Yes, because it took some attention off our capitulation against Bangladesh.

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    The win was great for Irish cricket and the Irish people, but in the larger context, Pakistan and India' early exit from the world cup took the gloss off the tournament, which was obviously not cool.

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    Yes, why should I feel otherwise. Ireland played better at the time and deserved the win.
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    I'm sure if anyone votes no, and does not support Pakistan, of course, they'll admit to not be able to supress irrational thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    The win was great for Irish cricket and the Irish people, but in the larger context, Pakistan and India' early exit from the world cup took the gloss off the tournament, which was obviously not cool.
    Pretty much agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    I'm sure if anyone votes no, they'll admit to not be able to express rational thought.
    Such as yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99* View Post
    Yes, why should I feel otherwise. Ireland played better at the time and deserved the win.
    You could (not neccessarily should) feel otherwise because it'd have been better for the tournament if Pakistan had been better on the day and deserved to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    Such as yourself?
    Indeed. I'd like to change 'express rational thought' to 'supress irrational thought', though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    You could (not neccessarily should) feel otherwise because it'd have been better for the tournament if Pakistan had been better on the day and deserved to win.
    Defeats the purpose of having teams like Ireland in the tournament then. If we only want the 'best' tournament then it should only have the Big-8 and not bother with teams like Ireland, Canada etc etc.

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    I think I see Richard's point, in that it made there be a lot less competitive games in the Super 8, which was really boring. If it wasn't for that, I don't think anyone could have an issue at all.

    But it was too damn special to vote anything other than Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99* View Post
    Defeats the purpose of having teams like Ireland in the tournament then. If we only want the 'best' tournament then it should only have the Big-8 and not bother with teams like Ireland, Canada etc etc.
    Yep, that's a very fair point, and one I'd subscribe to entirely. I don't think the World Cup is the place for such teams. I think I$C$C is trying to achieve the creation of the illusion of expansion by having them involved. I see no benefit to anyone by such teams being involved (and normally being thrashed out of sight).

    What I'd much prefer is some sort of qualifying round comprising of the preliminary group-stage from the previous Cup, though in a more foolproof manner. Then the Super Eight being the start of the tournament. That'd also achieve the cut-down in time that so many people are apparently so keen on.

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    Yeah, don't mind that idea at all. Make everyone qualify except hosts and holders, leaving six places to play for. That would give the associates game time against the big sides. Could result in the same outcome though, as there is nothing to say Ireland wouldn't beat Pakistan in a qualifying game.

    edit actually it's slightly problematic as there is only generally the West Indies who host the WC alone (we tend to give games to Scotland, Holland IIRC). Then again I guess you just crop down the number of qualifying places available when Asia host it
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