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Old 03-09-2008, 06:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Better organised, better matches, no politics. Same sorry England, though.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:26 AM   #19 (permalink)
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T20 World Cup>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2007 World Cup.
The organisation was on a different plane, as was the good fortune (or lack of misfortune) - no awful deaths of leading cricket figures mid-tournament, no upsets which skewed the tournament of its intended axis, few woeful-quality games between teams that should be relatively evenly-matched.

Nonetheless, purely from the POV that the 2007 World Cup was played with ODIs and the Twenty20 thingy with Twenty20, 2007 WC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007/08 T20 World thingy.
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The organisation was on a different plane, as was the good fortune (or lack of misfortune) - no awful deaths of leading cricket figures mid-tournament, no upsets which skewed the tournament of its intended axis, few woeful-quality games between teams that should be relatively evenly-matched.

Nonetheless, purely from the POV that the 2007 World Cup was played with ODIs and the Twenty20 thingy with Twenty20, 2007 WC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007/08 T20 World thingy.
The suggestion that Ireland beating Pakistan ruined that tournament is the one opinion in cricket i absolutely can. not. stand.
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The suggestion that Ireland beating Pakistan ruined that tournament is the one opinion in cricket i absolutely can. not. stand.
It didn't in itself ruin the tournament - as pointed-out by one person especially, it's fairly unlikely that Pakistan would have put-up much of a show in the Super Eights had they got there. This among other things.

But that Ireland victory over Pakistan was one piece in a massive jigsaw that ruined the tournament.
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The one that had negligable crowds, even in Sri Lanka, and had the final twice washed-out (despite a virtual first-time-then-action-replay of the first 52 overs)?
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The organisation was on a different plane, as was the good fortune (or lack of misfortune) - no awful deaths of leading cricket figures mid-tournament, no upsets which skewed the tournament of its intended axis, few woeful-quality games between teams that should be relatively evenly-matched.

Nonetheless, purely from the POV that the 2007 World Cup was played with ODIs and the Twenty20 thingy with Twenty20, 2007 WC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007/08 T20 World thingy.
Minus the death, or skewed 'upsets', and woeful-quality games, it was still boring. One game a day, and it dragged on forever.

Ironically, you've removed the most interesting parts of the tournament there. I enjoyed one match in the T20 championship more than the entire World Cup.
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It didn't in itself ruin the tournament - as pointed-out by one person especially, it's fairly unlikely that Pakistan would have put-up much of a show in the Super Eights had they got there. This among other things.

But that Ireland victory over Pakistan was one piece in a massive jigsaw that ruined the tournament.
Ireland beating Pakistan was the one highlight in an otherwise dire tournament.
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Minus the death, or skewed 'upsets', and woeful-quality games, it was still boring. One game a day, and it dragged on forever.
And if the games had been of better quality, it'd not have dragged-on forever, but marched on for a nice long time providing a long spectacle that all would have enjoyed for all it lasted.

One game a day, much as some decry it, is the only way to make a large profit. Having multiple games per day vastly decreases TV revenue.
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Ironically, you've removed the most interesting parts of the tournament there. I enjoyed one match in the T20 championship more than the entire World Cup.
Yeah but you don't dislike Twenty20 - therefore that's near-inevitable.
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Ireland beating Pakistan was the one highlight in an otherwise dire tournament.
If you're an Ireland (or underdog-in-general) supporter yeah, sure - but if you'd prefer watch India vs Pakistan than Ireland vs Bangladesh (as I can't help but suspect most cricket fans would) then it was a lowlight.

I happen to think that, few and far between though they may have been, there were a few highlights of that tournament, Pakistan-vs-Ireland not included. The incredible Sri Lanka-England match; the brief time when Smith and de Villiers were looking like reprising The Wanderers; the Sri Lanka-South Africa match where the easiest position ever to be thrown away almost happened before they got over the line. And probably 1 or 2 others that I've forgotten. Games which were anticipated and lived-up to the billing.
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If you're an Ireland (or underdog-in-general) supporter yeah, sure - but if you'd prefer watch India vs Pakistan than Ireland vs Bangladesh (as I can't help but suspect most cricket fans would) then it was a lowlight.

I happen to think that, few and far between though they may have been, there were a few highlights of that tournament, Pakistan-vs-Ireland not included. The incredible Sri Lanka-England match; the brief time when Smith and de Villiers were looking like reprising The Wanderers; the Sri Lanka-South Africa match where the easiest position ever to be thrown away almost happened before they got over the line. And probably 1 or 2 others that I've forgotten. Games which were anticipated and lived-up to the billing.
Did you not enjoy the Pakistan batting lineup being ripped through by a team of part-timers? Or did you sit grumpily thinking "oh gosh, this tournament's now going to be less fun than anticipated..."?

Have to agree on some of those highlights too though, also Malinga's 4 in 4 alluded to, the Ireland-Zimbabwe tie.
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Did you not enjoy the Pakistan batting lineup being ripped through by a team of part-timers? Or did you sit grumpily thinking "oh gosh, this tournament's now going to be less fun than anticipated..."?
TBH, I didn't actually sit through it at all - I was at work during most of the game and only watched the closing stages.

However, had I done so that would indeed probably have been a fair estimate at my feelings.

I never enjoy seeing supposedly top-class teams being ripped-up by part-timers - never. That just isn't the way I swing, and I make no apologies for the anti-romantic feelings. Romance can be dealt with elsewhere - I just don't enjoy it in cricket.
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Was going to mention the tie TBH.
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TBH, I didn't actually sit through it at all - I was at work during most of the game and only watched the closing stages.

However, had I done so that would indeed probably have been a fair estimate at my feelings.

I never enjoy seeing supposedly top-class teams being ripped-up by part-timers - never. That just isn't the way I swing, and I make no apologies for the anti-romantic feelings. Romance can be dealt with elsewhere - I just don't enjoy it in cricket.
Hmm, that's understandable then. But i don't think it's fair to say it made the tournament worse, because looking back on it, the best i can say of it now is "well at least we saw some surprises". Without those, the tournament had nothing.
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