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    11 Internationals

    I was just randomly looking at the Yorkshire 1997 squad.

    There looks to be 13 International players that played for Yorkshire that season (past, current, future).

    So for domestic teams, a challenge. Name an XI that all played in the same season for the same team and all played International cricket.

    3 pts- All represented same country and all Test cricketers
    2 pts- All represented same country but some ODI or T20 players OR all Test but different nationalities
    1 pt- Different nationalities and players that played different formats.

    My 1997 Yorkshire XI for 3 pts

    1. Moxon capt
    2. Vaughan
    3. McGrath
    4. White
    5. Blakey wkt
    6. Hamilton
    7. Gough
    8. Silverwood
    9. Sidebottom
    10. Batty
    11. Hoggard

    Eligible but left out in order to get full 3 pts- Lehmann (Aus) and Wharf (ODIs)
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    Random check of Surrey 2001 reveals 14 Internationls playing that season

    My 2001 Surrey XI for 3 pts

    1. Stewart wkt capt
    2. Butcher
    3. Ramprakash
    4. Thorpe
    5. Ward
    6. A. Hollioake
    7. B. Hollioake
    8. Tudor
    9. Salisbury
    10. Bicknell
    11. Giddins

    Eligible but left out in order to get full 3 pts- Saqlain (Pak) and Brown (ODIs), Batty (not selected)

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    I happen to know that this was the first time a county side took the field with a full hand of Test players - Middlesex v Essex at Lord's in May 1981. It only scores two though as Thomson and Daniel represented Australia and West Indies respectively.

    Brearley (capt)
    Downton (w/k)
    Radley
    Gatting
    Butcher
    Barlow
    Emburey
    Edmonds
    Selvey
    Thomson
    Daniel

    If these teams were 'weighted' according to what the players did in Tests, I'd be in trouble with the selection of Butcher, Barlow and Selvey.

    I like this though, I'll look for a few more. Mid-1980s Leicestershire and Essex spring to mind.

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    3 Points for me too...

    Irani Trophy, 2003/04
    Mumbai v Rest of India
    MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chepauk, Chennai
    18,19,20,21 September 2003 (5-day match)

    Rest of India Squad

    SC Ganguly (Captain)
    R Dravid
    SB Bangar
    V Sehwag
    VVS Laxman
    Yuvraj Singh
    PA Patel (Wicket-keeper)
    Z Khan
    L Balaji
    Harbhajan Singh
    A Kumble

    The reason I remember it pretty well is because it's the first match (and only one) involving Tendulkar I've been to in my real life. Tendulkar made captain's knocks of 94 and 50 in both innings for Mumbai but despite that RoI won by 3 wickets. Was a good match!

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    "Rest Of" teams hardly count though do they? By nature if internationals are all available, they're going to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    I was just randomly looking at the Yorkshire 1997 squad.

    There looks to be 13 International players that played for Yorkshire that season (past, current, future).

    So for domestic teams, a challenge. Name an XI that all played in the same season for the same team and all played International cricket.

    3 pts- All represented same country and all Test cricketers
    2 pts- All represented same country but some ODI or T20 players OR all Test but different nationalities
    1 pt- Different nationalities and players that played different formats.

    My 1997 Yorkshire XI for 3 pts

    1. Moxon capt
    2. Vaughan
    3. McGrath
    4. White
    5. Blakey wkt
    6. Hamilton
    7. Gough
    8. Silverwood
    9. Sidebottom
    10. Batty
    11. Hoggard

    Eligible but left out in order to get full 3 pts- Lehmann (Aus) and Wharf (ODIs)
    That's Gareth Batty who's now at Worcestershire? Didn't know he'd played for Yorkshire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    "Rest Of" teams hardly count though do they? By nature if internationals are all available, they're going to play.
    Why shouldnt they? After all, this is not a competition! Plus Irani Trophy is a regular tournament.

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    But "Rest Of" anything isn't a regular team. It's a team for which anyone and everyone can play, unless obviously they're involved with the "not rest". There is no registration.

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    But there is selection required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Random check of Surrey 2001 reveals 14 Internationls playing that season

    My 2001 Surrey XI for 3 pts

    1. Stewart wkt capt
    2. Butcher
    3. Ramprakash
    4. Thorpe
    5. Ward
    6. A. Hollioake
    7. B. Hollioake
    8. Tudor
    9. Salisbury
    10. Bicknell
    11. Giddins

    Eligible but left out in order to get full 3 pts- Saqlain (Pak) and Brown (ODIs), Batty (not selected)
    I'm trying to remember when Jimmy Ormond joined Surrey. Possibly 2002? if so you could substiture him for Ben Hollioake in the following season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    That's Gareth Batty who's now at Worcestershire? Didn't know he'd played for Yorkshire.
    It is. 97 was his only season at Yorks

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    is there any county team or a first class team from which all 11 members represented the country together? it was probably possible in the early days of test cricket. in modern times what could the record be?

    i know for a fact that karnataka team mates srinath, prasad, kumble, dravid and joshi played for india around the same time. but not sure if all five were in any one test team. 4 of them in many i am sure.

    barbados had the 3Ws and sobers playing for the west indies in the same time, iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    is there any county team or a first class team from which all 11 members represented the country together? it was probably possible in the early days of test cricket. in modern times what could the record be?

    i know for a fact that karnataka team mates srinath, prasad, kumble, dravid and joshi played for india around the same time. but not sure if all five were in any one test team. 4 of them in many i am sure.

    barbados had the 3Ws and sobers playing for the west indies in the same time, iirc.

    That's a problem with India. You have so many teams. And zone based selections ensure that you don't have more than 4 to 5 players from one state representing the national team at a time at best. Plus the turnover in test cricket is lesser as compared to English cricket.

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