The Twenty20 Cup in England

PY · 31-05-2003, 04:47 AM

Courtesy of ECB website

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Twenty20 Cup regulations

Format
Each team will play five zonal matches with either two or three of these being home matches. Matches are to be played between 13th and 24th June.

The top teams from each group and the best second-placed team (usual criteria apply) will progress to finals day on Saturday 19 July. Both semi-finals and the final will be played on that day. Zonal matches have no reserve days, finals day has one reserve day.

Playing Conditions

Duration
One innings per side, each innings limited to a maximum of 20 overs

Scheduled Hours of Play
Match First Innings Interval Second Innings
Zonal Matches 5.30-6.45pm 6.45-7.00pm 7.00-8.15pm

Interval
The interval will normally be of 15 minutes duration. In reduced overs matches, the interval will be cut to 10 minutes.

Re-arrangement of Overs
Teams have one hour 15 minutes to bowl 20 overs. In the first innings, the calculation of the number of overs to be bowled shall be based on one over for every full 3.75 minutes in the total time available for play up to the scheduled close of play. In the second innings of the match, overs shall be reduced at a rate of one over for every full 3.75 minutes lost, unless the first innings finished early / second innings started early in which case no overs are lost until the time that has been gained is subsequently lost.

Timed Out
The incoming batsman must be in position to take guard or for his partner to be ready to receive the next ball (or for his partner to receive the next ball) within one minute 30 seconds of the fall of the previous wicket.

Ball
White Kookaburra balls are to be used.

The Result
Each side must have faced (or had the opportunity to face) five overs in order to constitute a match. The Duckworth Lewis Method shall be used in interrupted matches.

Restrictions on the Placement of Fieldsmen
Fielding restrictions apply for the first six overs of each innings.

Number of Overs per Bowler
Each bowler may bowl a maximum of four overs. In a delayed or interrupted match, no bowler may bowl more than one fifth of the total overs allowed unless such a number has been exceeded before the interruption.

Free Hit after a Foot Fault No Ball
This will apply.

Short Pitched Bowling
As in other one-day competitions, one short-pitched ball is allowed per over.

Over-Rate Penalties
The six-run penalty for each over not bowled will apply - all sides are expected to be in position to bowl the first ball of the last of their 20 overs within one hour 15 minutes playing time. In reduced over matches, the fielding side has one over's leeway in addition to any time that the Umpires may allow for stoppages.

Umpires are instructed to apply a strict interpretation of time-wasting by the batsman (five-run penalties). Specifically, batsmen are expected to be ready for the start of a new over as soon as the bowler is ready.

What do people think of this new Twenty20 Cup? I'm undecided, makes things much more exciting but might create bad habits......

Supposedly Channel 4 have got coverage of a small amount of them too.

luckyeddie · 31-05-2003, 04:52 AM

I'm going to the finals - should get some good photos.

When I first heard of the competition, I thought "Good god, Brigadier. What would KS Ranjitsinji make of it all? (another Pimm's, old man?)" - as you do.

Now, I'm really looking forward to it.

chris.hinton · 31-05-2003, 05:03 AM

I Love it its a great idea

marc71178 · 31-05-2003, 05:16 AM

I'm not sure.

From a purists point of view I'd rather stick my head down a toilet, but if it attracts youngsters to the game, then that's a good thing right?

luckyeddie · 31-05-2003, 06:23 AM

The parallel, of course, was the introduction of one-day cricket in the first place.

The old Gillette Cup (known as just 'The Knockout Cup' in 1963) was 65 overs a side, and to a certain extent teams played 'proper cricket'.

A few old Brigadiers choked on their brandies, but by and large the activities weren't TOO frenetic. Pull your 'Times' over your head, close your eyes and away you go (the duck's helping me with this) - 'zzzzzzzzzz'.

Come the mid-1960's, the 'International Cavaliers' played challenges on Sunday afternoons. Games HAD to finish by 7.00 - not sure whether this was because of television, but certainly the 'Lord's Day Observance Society' were up in arms about people missing Evensong.

These were 40 overs a side, and people were most definitely saying 'not cricket', 'tip and run', 'electric rounders' (my favourite) and the like.

What I remember of those halcyon days of limited overs cricket was the number of kids in attendance. They could equate to the game. It wasn't (as they saw it) 'slow' or 'sterile', all the usual epithets thrown at the longer game. It was more like the games we played at school - sure, frantic, but exciting, dynamic, fun.

In my mind, the 20 over game will have the same effect now as the 40 over game did then.

Another Pimm's, anyone?

Neil Pickup · 31-05-2003, 01:31 PM

I hope you're right, Eddie.

I think that kids may be able to relate more to the 20-over version because that's what is played in Junior leagues up and down the country, although it will lack the excitement of "It's 6.15pm. The match starts in five minutes. I have nine players. Random 10-year old, do you want to play? Balls, they're going at eight an over. Don't worry lads, we can still win this. Arse. We're 16-3 after five overs. Now, we can hold on for a point for the losing draw. No! You need to put the bat down over the line or you're run out, and not just hold it in the air.. As proven there, you idiot"

Anyway, aside from ramblings, should help bring new tactics and options up into the 50-over game and first-class cricket. Look at the improvements in improvised strokeplay and, in particular, fielding, that the one-day game has brought.

Oh, and Channel 4 is covering one game on Saturday June 21, I think.

I thoroughly intend to be at the Finals day as well (whether or not the ECB recognise me as media), as the first part of a festival of cricket weekend, cumulating with the Caistor Town CC Select XI vs Nottinghamshire XI at Brigg Road, Caistor in Wayne Noon's Benefit Match, where there will be activities and fun for all the family.

Langeveldt · 31-05-2003, 01:53 PM

Although people say it could create bad habits, surely the competition does not run long enough for these habits to form!?

I personally cannot wait, although somerset will probably get stuffed at anything played with a white ball.. I bet they dont play golf :rolleyes:

Tim · 31-05-2003, 03:23 PM

Well this is just another way of trying to turn cricket into baseball.

We've seen it with Super Max in New Zealand & then Power cricket in England.

The problem for cricket is that the purists out-weigh the ones who want a shorter version of say 3-4 hours action.
Personally i'd rather see a good test match.

RobbieD · 31-05-2003, 04:50 PM

Hey Tim,

I can't wait to see the Twenty20 Cup. I saw Super Max and it was a sucess out there. So much fun for the fans and kids watching.

What was power cricket in England?

Rich2001 · 31-05-2003, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by RobbieD
Hey Tim,

I can't wait to see the Twenty20 Cup. I saw Super Max and it was a sucess out there. So much fun for the fans and kids watching.

What was power cricket in England?

It was the couple of games last Sept / Oct time. Basically it was England vs a Rest of the World side, in 2 indoor matches (Cardiff) and there were bigger runs on offer if you hit the ball to certain parts, eg the top tier of the stand was worth 12 etc and it was two 15 over inngs.

luckyeddie · 31-05-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich2001
It was the couple of games last Sept / Oct time. Basically it was England vs a Rest of the World side, in 2 indoor matches (Cardiff) and there were bigger runs on offer if you hit the ball to certain parts, eg the top tier of the stand was worth 12 etc and it was two 15 over inngs.

I thought that it was going to be rubbish, but watched it out of curiosity.

IT WAS FANTASTIC!

Langeveldt · 01-06-2003, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by luckyeddie
I thought that it was going to be rubbish, but watched it out of curiosity.

IT WAS FANTASTIC!

I went there, and so many people who dont normally watch cricket were watching , but they appeared to have a great time... I reckon it must have converted quite a few people, so it served a purpouse...

PY · 12-06-2003, 02:48 PM

Read an interview with John Crawley, Hampshire captain, and he says that 180 will be only a defendable total in this format, :O I've played 20 over cricket for 7 years and the highest I think I've seen anyone score is 160 in their overs. What does everyone think? Before I read that article I was thinking 130-140 but some of my mates thought more along the lines of 120-odd.

luckyeddie · 12-06-2003, 03:00 PM

Very much depends upon the boundaries.

I could see someone like Ally Brown getting in at the Oval (they tend to draw the boundaries tight for one-dayers) and scoring 100+.

My guess is that there's going to be grounds where 150 is defendable and others where 200 is par.

Langeveldt · 12-06-2003, 03:08 PM

We scored 187-3 in 20 overs last night, but that was a once in a decade freak, so i guess Crawley is exaggerating...

31-05-2003, 04:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	I'm going to the finals - should get some good photos. When I first heard of the competition, I thought "Good god, Brigadier. What would KS Ranjitsinji make of it all? (another Pimm's, old man?)" - as you do. Now, I'm really looking forward to it. __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men

31-05-2003, 05:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	I'm not sure. From a purists point of view I'd rather stick my head down a toilet, but if it attracts youngsters to the game, then that's a good thing right? __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

31-05-2003, 01:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	I hope you're right, Eddie. I think that kids may be able to relate more to the 20-over version because that's what is played in Junior leagues up and down the country, although it will lack the excitement of "It's 6.15pm. The match starts in five minutes. I have nine players. Random 10-year old, do you want to play? Balls, they're going at eight an over. Don't worry lads, we can still win this. Arse. We're 16-3 after five overs. Now, we can hold on for a point for the losing draw. No! You need to put the bat down over the line or you're run out, and not just hold it in the air.. As proven there, you idiot" Anyway, aside from ramblings, should help bring new tactics and options up into the 50-over game and first-class cricket. Look at the improvements in improvised strokeplay and, in particular, fielding, that the one-day game has brought. Oh, and Channel 4 is covering one game on Saturday June 21, I think. I thoroughly intend to be at the Finals day as well (whether or not the ECB recognise me as media), as the first part of a festival of cricket weekend, cumulating with the Caistor Town CC Select XI vs Nottinghamshire XI at Brigg Road, Caistor in Wayne Noon's Benefit Match, where there will be activities and fun for all the family. __________________ MSN Messenger: minardineil2000 at hotmail dot com \| AAAS Chairman CricketWeb Black \| CricketWeb XI Captain ClarkeWatch: We're Watching Rikki - Are You? Up The Grecians - Exeter City FC Completing the Square: My Cricket Web Blog Last edited by Neil Pickup; 31-05-2003 at 01:33 PM.

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31-05-2003, 05:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
chris.hinton International Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,324	I Love it its a great idea

31-05-2003, 06:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	The parallel, of course, was the introduction of one-day cricket in the first place. The old Gillette Cup (known as just 'The Knockout Cup' in 1963) was 65 overs a side, and to a certain extent teams played 'proper cricket'. A few old Brigadiers choked on their brandies, but by and large the activities weren't TOO frenetic. Pull your 'Times' over your head, close your eyes and away you go (the duck's helping me with this) - 'zzzzzzzzzz'. Come the mid-1960's, the 'International Cavaliers' played challenges on Sunday afternoons. Games HAD to finish by 7.00 - not sure whether this was because of television, but certainly the 'Lord's Day Observance Society' were up in arms about people missing Evensong. These were 40 overs a side, and people were most definitely saying 'not cricket', 'tip and run', 'electric rounders' (my favourite) and the like. What I remember of those halcyon days of limited overs cricket was the number of kids in attendance. They could equate to the game. It wasn't (as they saw it) 'slow' or 'sterile', all the usual epithets thrown at the longer game. It was more like the games we played at school - sure, frantic, but exciting, dynamic, fun. In my mind, the 20 over game will have the same effect now as the 40 over game did then. Another Pimm's, anyone?

31-05-2003, 03:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Well this is just another way of trying to turn cricket into baseball. We've seen it with Super Max in New Zealand & then Power cricket in England. The problem for cricket is that the purists out-weigh the ones who want a shorter version of say 3-4 hours action. Personally i'd rather see a good test match.

31-05-2003, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
RobbieD Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cheltenham & London Posts: 2	Hey Tim, I can't wait to see the Twenty20 Cup. I saw Super Max and it was a sucess out there. So much fun for the fans and kids watching. What was power cricket in England?

12-06-2003, 02:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
PY International Coach Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 10,736	Read an interview with John Crawley, Hampshire captain, and he says that 180 will be only a defendable total in this format, :O I've played 20 over cricket for 7 years and the highest I think I've seen anyone score is 160 in their overs. What does everyone think? Before I read that article I was thinking 130-140 but some of my mates thought more along the lines of 120-odd.

12-06-2003, 03:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	Very much depends upon the boundaries. I could see someone like Ally Brown getting in at the Oval (they tend to draw the boundaries tight for one-dayers) and scoring 100+. My guess is that there's going to be grounds where 150 is defendable and others where 200 is par.

12-06-2003, 03:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Langeveldt Soutie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stellenbosch - South Africa Posts: 29,336	We scored 187-3 in 20 overs last night, but that was a once in a decade freak, so i guess Crawley is exaggerating...

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