NZ return to Pakistan

Tim · 29-05-2003, 04:06 AM

Interesting news that New Zealand is set to play a 5 match ODI series in Pakistan in November.

I think this is a good move because I thought NZ were becoming far too precious about where they travelled to.

It remains to be seen however who will travel to Pakistan because im sure some players will not want to return.

luckyeddie · 29-05-2003, 04:44 AM

Remains to be seen who the ICC will get to umpire, too.

Rameez Raja's pi**ing everyone off at the moment

marc71178 · 29-05-2003, 04:52 AM

His latest one is outrageous - complaining because an umpire called dead ball when it deflected off his non-striker's bat for 4 overthrows!

luckyeddie · 29-05-2003, 06:30 AM

It's one of those areas of the game which really needs clearing up.

If the ball doesn't go to the boundary, convention has it that the batsmen don't run (unless your name is Rameez Raja, in which case you get given out for obstruction of the field). If it does, you get four. Belated sour grapes, perhaps?

I'd like to think that this has set a precedent, and that 'dead ball' will always be called.

Come in ICC, something useful for you to do (for once).

As for the complaint, I've probably said enough in CW's leading article, although what do they want? The last 45 overs of game 4 replaying?

I'd like to hear Eyes-Only's interpretation of the way this one ought to go.

marc71178 · 29-05-2003, 06:56 AM

I thought the umpire's decision was final?

luckyeddie · 29-05-2003, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by marc71178
I thought the umpire's decision was final?

Always used to be.

I remember when David (Constant) was hounded out of international cricket.

When it comes down to questioning a person's judgement and integrity, people (players, administrators, the lot) ought to think long and hard before issuing statements which could be, er, open to misinterpretation.

At the end of the day, umpires are human (well, all except Syd Buller who 'called' my schoolboy hero Harold Rhodes for throwing) and consequently, they are fallible.

Kiwi · 29-05-2003, 01:08 PM

Heard Nathan Astle talking on TV the other day about it and he said if they were given the all clear to go then he would have no problems with it.

Tim · 29-05-2003, 05:31 PM

Yeah I read that stupid claim that the PCB made about Daryl Harper..im pretty sure its just in retaliation to the ban of Shoaib Ahktar.

29-05-2003, 04:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	NZ return to Pakistan Interesting news that New Zealand is set to play a 5 match ODI series in Pakistan in November. I think this is a good move because I thought NZ were becoming far too precious about where they travelled to. It remains to be seen however who will travel to Pakistan because im sure some players will not want to return.

29-05-2003, 04:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,617	Remains to be seen who the ICC will get to umpire, too. Rameez Raja's piing everyone off at the moment __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men**

29-05-2003, 04:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,333	His latest one is outrageous - complaining because an umpire called dead ball when it deflected off his non-striker's bat for 4 overthrows! __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

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29-05-2003, 06:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,617	It's one of those areas of the game which really needs clearing up. If the ball doesn't go to the boundary, convention has it that the batsmen don't run (unless your name is Rameez Raja, in which case you get given out for obstruction of the field). If it does, you get four. Belated sour grapes, perhaps? I'd like to think that this has set a precedent, and that 'dead ball' will always be called. Come in ICC, something useful for you to do (for once). As for the complaint, I've probably said enough in CW's leading article, although what do they want? The last 45 overs of game 4 replaying? I'd like to hear Eyes-Only's interpretation of the way this one ought to go.

29-05-2003, 06:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,333	I thought the umpire's decision was final?

29-05-2003, 01:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kiwi State Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,079	Heard Nathan Astle talking on TV the other day about it and he said if they were given the all clear to go then he would have no problems with it.

29-05-2003, 05:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Yeah I read that stupid claim that the PCB made about Daryl Harper..im pretty sure its just in retaliation to the ban of Shoaib Ahktar.

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