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    Sehwag, an all-time Indian great?

    IS Sehwag an all-time Indian great, along with Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Dravid? Discuss

    * two triple 100s and tons of 150+ scores
    * 5102 runs @ 53 in 59 tests [100 innings] with 15 100s
    * averages 50+ against some of the best attacks like Australia, Pakistan, SL and SA
    * single handedly salvages situation when most of the others fail [one man army]
    * averages more than any other Indian opener

    defiantly, an all-time Indian batsman for me
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    lets look at some of the other greats after their 100th inning

    Gavaskar - 5249 @ 56 with 21 100s
    Tendulkar - 4956 @ 55 with 18 100s [99 innings]
    Dravid - 4607 @ 51 with 10 100s

    Sobers - 5345 @ 61 with 17 H
    Richards - 5214 @ 55 with 17 H [99I]
    Hayden - 5212 @ 57 with 20H [99I]
    Lara - 4778 @ 50 with 10 H [99I]
    Chappell - 4530 @ 53 with 15 H
    Ponting - 4246 @ 57 with 14 H [99I]
    S Waugh - 3568 @ 44 with 7 H
    if we are to rank them after their 100 innings [99 in some cases] then below is the standing:

    Sobers - 5345
    Gavaskar - 5249
    Richards - 5214
    Hayden - 5212
    Sehwag - 5102
    Tendulkar - 4956
    Lara - 4778

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    no i would never consider him great. His technique is nothing compared to other greats. All he knows is just slashing the ball hard and he seems to score a lot of runs because of his luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mard View Post
    no i would never consider him great. His technique is nothing compared to other greats. All he knows is just slashing the ball hard and he seems to score a lot of runs because of his luck.
    and still he is averaging a Bradmansique 90+ against Pak


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    ^ true but like i said his technique is not good and he doesn't have all the text book shots like tendulkar or lara. He has been very lucky in my opnion. His oneday average reflects the kind of a batsmen he is.

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    He's played on some farcical pitches against Pakistan.

    A good, perhaps very good batsman, but not great. One of the biggest beneficiaries of flat pitches, poor standards of bowling and catching. That said, he's good enough that he would probably average over 40 if all chances were held anyway. He's also played some good innings in difficult conditions before. Great stats, but not a great player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    He's played on some farcical pitches against Pakistan.

    A good, perhaps very good batsman, but not great. One of the biggest beneficiaries of flat pitches, poor standards of bowling and catching. That said, he's good enough that he would probably average over 40 if all chances were held anyway. He's also played some good innings in difficult conditions before. Great stats, but not a great player.
    exactly my point

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    I will certainly consider him a great if he can keep up his good record for the rest of his career.

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    No, not a great.
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    Luck by itself is only going to carry you so far. You've gotta have a fair bit of ability to average 50+ as a test opener after 60 tests with runs in almost every test playing country in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    He's played on some farcical pitches against Pakistan.

    A good, perhaps very good batsman, but not great. One of the biggest beneficiaries of flat pitches, poor standards of bowling and catching. That said, he's good enough that he would probably average over 40 if all chances were held anyway. He's also played some good innings in difficult conditions before. Great stats, but not a great player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post
    Luck by itself is only going to carry you so far. You've gotta have a fair bit of ability to average 50+ as a test opener after 60 tests with runs in almost every test playing country in the world
    All of that can be true without being a great. He has ability, sure, and he has scored runs in a lot of places. So have a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post
    Luck by itself is only going to carry you so far.
    Well Andrew Symonds is literally let off in every significant innings he plays. ITSTL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    All of that can be true without being a great. He has ability, sure, and he has scored runs in a lot of places. So have a lot of people.
    I think he's a pretty special talent tbh. I've seen the majority of his test innings and he has played several good innings on pitches where there has been something in it for the bowlers.

    He may not be aesthetically pleasing but he is blessed with exceptional hand-eye coordination - a bit Gilchrist like in that respect.

    I think if he can continue to play innings like Adelaide 2008 or Galle 2008 and maintains a 50+ average, its going to be very hard not to consider him an all time great by the time he hangs up his boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    Well Andrew Symonds is literally let off in every significant innings he plays. ITSTL.

    And I'm sure Symonds will have his periods of bad fortune as well....the point I'm making is that those who've seen Sehwag's best innings will realize...this is not a mindless, lucky slogger but a batsman with considerable ability.
    More than a tad underrated on these forums.

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