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    The Linear Test World Champions

    I was having a bit of a Google (as one does) & I stumbled across this site:

    Test cricket world champions since 1876

    We're indebted to a gentleman called John Birch who, taking the first ever test as his start, has proposed a theoretical test world championship belt similar to the ones in boxing, whereby you become world champions simply by beating the existing champions. A lot less complex a method than the ICC test rankings, certainly.

    Amazingly, Zimbabwe were once the linear world champs by virtue of their win over India (the Indians having claimed the title by beating Oz in their 97/98 home series), but NZ have never held the title & SA haven't for over 100 years.

    The site was last updated in 2001, when India again became champions with a home win over Australia, so I've taken the liberty of updating the title holders:

    2001: India: drew 1-1 with Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe (2 tests)
    2001: Sri Lanka: beat India 2-1 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Bangladesh 1-0 in Sri Lanka (1 test)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat West Indies 3-0 win in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Zimbabwe 3-0 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Pakistan 1-0 in Pakistan (1 test)
    2002: England: beat Sri Lanka 2-0 in England (3 tests)
    2002: England: drew 1-1 with India in England (4 tests)
    2002/03: Australia: beat England 4-1 in Australia (5 tests)
    2002/03: Australia: beat West Indies 3-1 in West Indies (4 tests)
    2003: Australia: beat Bangladesh 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: beat Zimbabwe 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: drew 1-1 with India in Australia (4 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 3-0 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2004: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 1-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat India 2-1 in India (4 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat New Zealand 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat Pakistan 3-0 in Australia (3 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat New Zealand 2-0 in New Zealand (3 tests)
    2005: England: beat Australia 2-1 in England (5 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat England 2-0 in Pakistan (3 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat India 1-0 in Pakistan (3 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat Sri Lanka 1-0 in Sri Lanka (2 tests)
    2006: England: beat Pakistan 2-0 in England (4 tests)
    2006/07: Australia: beat England 5-0 in Australia (5 tests)
    2007/08: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2007/08: Australia: beat India 2-1 in Australia (4 tests)
    2008: Australia: beat West Indies 2-0 in West Indies (3 tests)

    Heartening to see we've 3 times held the title this decade, having not previously been champions since 79/80.

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    Interesting. Was thinking about this no more than a day ago

    Good to see
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    Tried something like this a couple of months back after reading someone (Goughy?) say something about considering a side world champions after they beat the incumbents away from home. Not entirely sure about the accuracy, but came out with this:
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    From	Until	Team
    1877	1882/83	Australia
    1882/83	1899	England
    1899	1903/04 Australia
    1903/04	1909 	England
    1909	1911/12 Australia
    1911/12	1921 	England
    1921	1932/33	Australia
    1932/33	1934	England
    1934	1954/55	Australia
    1954/55	1961	England
    1961	1970/71	Australia
    1970/71	1971	England
    1971	1974/75	India
    1974/75	1994/95	West Indies
    1994/95	current	Australia


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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
    Tried something like this a couple of months back after reading someone (Goughy?) say something about considering a side world champions after they beat the incumbents away from home.
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    Just saw this now. Interesting stuff. Will be interesting to dig up now and again, if Australia lose a series anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Amazingly, Zimbabwe were once the linear world champs by virtue of their win over India (the Indians having claimed the title by beating Oz in their 97/98 home series), but NZ have never held the title


    Interesting stuff though.

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    India world champions!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I was having a bit of a Google (as one does) & I stumbled across this site:

    Test cricket world champions since 1876

    We're indebted to a gentleman called John Birch who, taking the first ever test as his start, has proposed a theoretical test world championship belt similar to the ones in boxing, whereby you become world champions simply by beating the existing champions. A lot less complex a method than the ICC test rankings, certainly.

    Amazingly, Zimbabwe were once the linear world champs by virtue of their win over India (the Indians having claimed the title by beating Oz in their 97/98 home series), but NZ have never held the title & SA haven't for over 100 years.

    The site was last updated in 2001, when India again became champions with a home win over Australia, so I've taken the liberty of updating the title holders:

    2001: India: drew 1-1 with Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe (2 tests)
    2001: Sri Lanka: beat India 2-1 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Bangladesh 1-0 in Sri Lanka (1 test)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat West Indies 3-0 win in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Zimbabwe 3-0 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2001/02: Sri Lanka: beat Pakistan 1-0 in Pakistan (1 test)
    2002: England: beat Sri Lanka 2-0 in England (3 tests)
    2002: England: drew 1-1 with India in England (4 tests)
    2002/03: Australia: beat England 4-1 in Australia (5 tests)
    2002/03: Australia: beat West Indies 3-1 in West Indies (4 tests)
    2003: Australia: beat Bangladesh 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: beat Zimbabwe 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: drew 1-1 with India in Australia (4 tests)
    2003/04: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 3-0 in Sri Lanka (3 tests)
    2004: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 1-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat India 2-1 in India (4 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat New Zealand 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat Pakistan 3-0 in Australia (3 tests)
    2004/05: Australia: beat New Zealand 2-0 in New Zealand (3 tests)
    2005: England: beat Australia 2-1 in England (5 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat England 2-0 in Pakistan (3 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat India 1-0 in Pakistan (3 tests)
    2005/06: Pakistan: beat Sri Lanka 1-0 in Sri Lanka (2 tests)
    2006: England: beat Pakistan 3-0 in England (4 tests)
    2006/07: Australia: beat England 5-0 in Australia (5 tests)
    2007/08: Australia: beat Sri Lanka 2-0 in Australia (2 tests)
    2007/08: Australia: beat India 2-1 in Australia (4 tests)
    2008: Australia: beat West Indies 2-0 in West Indies (3 tests)
    Thought I'd update this:

    2008/09: India beat Australia 2-0 in India (4 tests)
    2008/09: India beat England 1-0 in India (2 tests)
    2008/09: India beat New Zealand 1-0 in New Zealand (3 tests)
    2009/10: India beat Sri Lanka 2-0 in India (3 tests)
    2009/10: India beat Bangladesh 2-0 in Bangladesh (2 tests)

    As we can see, India are not only the no.1 test side in the ICC rankings, but also the current linear world champs having wrested the crown from Oz by winning the Border/Gavaskar series in 2008 and successfully defending their crown 4 times since.

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    Just done somethng similar using the idea that you have to beat the Champ in their home to take the title (ie have to knock out the Champ to take the belt)

    So using 3 match series min and have to win away.

    Linear World Champs

    Start - 1899- Eng
    1899 1903/04- Aus
    03/04 - 09- Eng
    09 - 11/12- Aus
    11/12 - 21- Eng
    21 - 28/29- Aus
    28/29 - 30- Eng
    30 - 32/33- Aus
    32/33 - 34- Eng
    34 - 54/55- Aus
    55 - 61- Eng
    61 - 70/71- Aus
    70/71 - 71 Eng
    71 - 74/75- India
    74/75 - 94/95- WI
    94/95 - 08- Aus
    08/09 - 08/09- SA
    08/09 - Pres- Aus

    Gah, Aus still on top. SA with the shortest reign in Test history.

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    Yeah I like to take it as that as well Goughy. Any changes if it was reduced to less than 3 tests?

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    Both interesting and somewhat depressing to hear that New Zealand have never been the holders of the "world test champion title" on such a list, yet even Zimbabwe have managed it. For the record I do prefer Goughy's list and criteria that to take the title, a side must win away from home in Ranfurly Shield style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Just done somethng similar using the idea that you have to beat the Champ in their home to take the title (ie have to knock out the Champ to take the belt)

    So using 3 match series min and have to win away.

    Linear World Champs

    Start - 1899- Eng
    1899 1903/04- Aus
    03/04 - 09- Eng
    09 - 11/12- Aus
    11/12 - 21- Eng
    21 - 28/29- Aus
    28/29 - 30- Eng
    30 - 32/33- Aus
    32/33 - 34- Eng
    34 - 54/55- Aus
    55 - 61- Eng
    61 - 70/71- Aus
    70/71 - 71 Eng
    71 - 74/75- India
    74/75 - 94/95- WI
    94/95 - 08- Aus
    08/09 - 08/09- SA
    08/09 - Pres- Aus

    Gah, Aus still on top. SA with the shortest reign in Test history.

    Haha, ****. Just realised that Steds did this exact same thing earlier in the thread.

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    The international football unofficial world championships is a lot more interesting, partly because if there are a few unusual results it can get dragged around a few backwaters before reemerging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Haha, ****. Just realised that Steds did this exact same thing earlier in the thread.
    At least you've ensured that England no onger have the shortest reign

    Not sure about all of this, tbh. Granted anything to streamline the current situation is worth discussing, but the above just seem too open to rogue results. I've not seen a lot to change my view that the test championship is either pointless because it's blatantly obvious who the best side is or meaningless because the top sides are too close to call.

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    It's not meaningless if that's the case because it gives teams something to aim for. If a 3-0 result means a team jumps up in the rankings instead of 2-0, then it may make that team go out in a dead rubber and try and win the match a bit more than they might have if it were simply a dead rubber with no consequences.
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