Wither Australia? Not Likely....

Burgey · 06-07-2008, 05:08 PM

Some comments on why Australia won't necessarily fall from top spot.

http://www.cricketweb.net/blog/features/39.php

Thoughts?

itduzz · 06-07-2008, 05:15 PM

In ODIs...they are still the best or may be equal to SA...but in tests India showed how vulnerable they have become. Even WI can draw tests against them.

Uppercut · 06-07-2008, 05:38 PM

Noone's ever actually whitewashed the West Indies over there in a test series so thats not much of a failure. I could probably draw a test against Australia. All i need is eleven volunteers and five days of rain.

Son Of Coco · 06-07-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Uppercut

Noone's ever actually whitewashed the West Indies over there in a test series so thats not much of a failure. I could probably draw a test against Australia. All i need is eleven volunteers and five days of rain.

howardj · 06-07-2008, 10:06 PM

Good article. I particularly like the slant that finding a bluechip 3rd quick is enough for us to remain dominant, as distinct from having to unearth another Warnie.

NUFAN · 06-07-2008, 10:42 PM

Yeah good article.

And now i know your surname is Burge, I was reading your name like Burger with the y instead of the r obv.

silentstriker · 06-07-2008, 10:45 PM

Their domestic infrastructure is too good for them to ever wither. They may or may not be as dominant as they were, but its hard to see them ever being a bad team. Their fundamentals are too good.

Jakester1288 · 06-07-2008, 10:56 PM

Australia has up and coming batsmen, bowlers. wicketkeepers and all rounders, yet no quality spinners. We will be right until we go to South Africa, England and India, where the pitches favour spin. Sadly they are our next three tours.

India, England the South Africa IIRC, in that order. (Someone to correct me if I'm wrong).

dontcloseyoureyes · 06-07-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakester1288

(Someone to correct me if I'm wrong).

Okay. South African pitches are far from spinner friendly, generally favour good seam up bowling, the same with England.

irfan · 07-07-2008, 01:38 AM

Australia's fall from top spot will coincides with Federer's IMO.

sideshowtim · 07-07-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irfan

Australia's fall from top spot will coincides with Federer's IMO.

Riiiight....

Flem274* · 07-07-2008, 01:55 AM

Australia will come back to the pack a bit, of that I'm sure. Its hard to judge atm because many nations are putting together new teams but Australia has the infrastructure and player base to be sure, apart from an unforseen disaster, of not collapsing. There is a chance that they could go to the mid-table but that would be due to other teams catching up (India and South Africa spring to mind as prime candidates to jump them) rather than Australian cricket going down the toilet. They'll still be a good side, but how good its too early to say. There are cracks but it depends on whether they are exploited.

Flem274* · 07-07-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sideshowtim

Riiiight....

I'll quote him and your reply if he is.

howardj · 07-07-2008, 06:05 AM

I think one of the biggest things that keeps Australia up there is that cricket is part of our culture. The team and the nation more broadly really cares. We, as a people, blead when we lost the Urn, and we rejoiced and danced on England's grave when we crushed them 5-0 and won the thing back.

By contrast, in many other cricket playing countries, cricket is not really the main sport. The population and I think even some of the teams just brush losses off like a loose piece of cotton on your shirt. Again, contrast that with the soul-searching that went on when we lost the Ashes.

In short, cricket is embedded in our culture and this has many flow on effects - funding; juniors playing the game; general infrastructure etc.

Jono · 07-07-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sideshowtim

Riiiight....

Quote:

Originally Posted by irfan

Australia's fall from top spot will coincides with Federer's IMO.

Nah he's right. Rafa would dominate cricket too if he really wanted to.

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,104	I think one of the biggest things that keeps Australia up there is that cricket is part of our culture. The team and the nation more broadly really cares. We, as a people, blead when we lost the Urn, and we rejoiced and danced on England's grave when we crushed them 5-0 and won the thing back. By contrast, in many other cricket playing countries, cricket is not really the main sport. The population and I think even some of the teams just brush losses off like a loose piece of cotton on your shirt. Again, contrast that with the soul-searching that went on when we lost the Ashes. In short, cricket is embedded in our culture and this has many flow on effects - funding; juniors playing the game; general infrastructure etc. Last edited by howardj; 07-07-2008 at 06:07 AM.

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itduzz Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 116	In ODIs...they are still the best or may be equal to SA...but in tests India showed how vulnerable they have become. Even WI can draw tests against them.

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Uppercut Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 21,785	Noone's ever actually whitewashed the West Indies over there in a test series so thats not much of a failure. I could probably draw a test against Australia. All i need is eleven volunteers and five days of rain.

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,104	Good article. I particularly like the slant that finding a bluechip 3rd quick is enough for us to remain dominant, as distinct from having to unearth another Warnie.

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Jakester1288 International Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,533	Australia has up and coming batsmen, bowlers. wicketkeepers and all rounders, yet no quality spinners. We will be right until we go to South Africa, England and India, where the pitches favour spin. Sadly they are our next three tours. India, England the South Africa IIRC, in that order. (Someone to correct me if I'm wrong).

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irfan International 12th Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA Posts: 1,703	Australia's fall from top spot will coincides with Federer's IMO.

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