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Tendulkar, the most underachieving batsmen ever

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
lol... a few stats seem right but the guy just seems plain bitter about Sachin for some reason. Didn't know JustTool writes at Holdingwilley....


The only interesting thing while reading his piece was me trying to work out whether he was more of a Lara fan or a Dravid fan... :laugh:
Careful !! You are giving it away HB :laugh:
 

subshakerz

International Coach
One point that I believe that is more or less fair in the article is that Tendulkar hasn't played as well under pressure as he should. Not to say he hasn't played good innings in tough situations, but not as much as say, Lara or even Dravid.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
The author shows Man of the Match data to show who are the match winners. According to that data, Harbhajan is a better test bowler than Kumble and Das is a better batsman than Tendulkar. Amazing.

The author points out some faults (some wrongly and some rightly) in Tendulkar's batting statistics. The fact is that one can write more number of weak points in any other modern-day batsman's case.

Why doesn't the author talk about Dravid's quick scoring ability in ODI, Lara's consistency, Ponting's achievements on Idian soil, Hayden's batting prowess in the 90s, Inzamam's running between the wickets etc.?..

Simple answer,...if there are 10 aspects of batsmanship, then the author will take examples of 10 different batsmen (the bests in different aspects) to compare with Sachin...

There is nothing new in that...There have been several critics who have said, Sachin doesn't play as many big innings as Lara, Sachin doesn't play as well abroad as Dravid, Sachin doesn't play as attackingly as Sehwag, Sachin doesn't play fast bowling as well as Ponting etc. etc. etc...They don't know what they're essentially conveying by saying so is that Sachin is the most versatile modern-day batsman...But "sadly, that's not another story".
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Its interesting that two years ago we were predicting the end of Sachin's career and now that he seems to be going on and on, the arm-chair loonies are out with their smart-stats to see if they can do what injuries and ravages of time couldn't.
 

ret

International Debutant
lol @ the article

they should write something like that on someone like Pele too to get some more hits to their site :laugh:
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Its interesting that two years ago we were predicting the end of Sachin's career and now that he seems to be going on and on, the arm-chair loonies are out with their smart-stats to see if they can do what injuries and ravages of time couldn't.
Article was dated November, 2006 - that's NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO

A lot of those same arm-chair loonies are here criticising the article
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Article was dated November, 2006 - that's NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO

A lot of those same arm-chair loonies are here criticising the article
If he isn't performing, as he wasn't for a period there, the criticism is absolutely valid. He is not beyond criticism if he fails. It's mad to think otherwise. If he stops performing for an extended period, he ought to be dropped, just like any other player. What is not valid, as the article is doing, is to look at his past achievements in a biased manner and minimize his contributions. What he did in the past is a matter of record and he has had an amazing contribution to Indian cricket, but that doesn't mean he should be immune to calls of removal if and when he stops contributing as a Test class player.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
If he isn't performing, as he wasn't for a period there, the criticism is absolutely valid. He is not beyond criticism if he fails. It's mad to think otherwise. If he stops performing for an extended period, he ought to be dropped, just like any other player. What is not valid, as the article is doing, is to look at his past achievements in a biased manner and minimize his contributions. What he did in the past is a matter of record and he has had an amazing contribution to Indian cricket, but that doesn't mean he should be immune to calls of removal if and when he stops contributing as a Test class player.

Absolutely.

There was a time when Tendulkar's run of poor form had gone on long enough for him to be close to being dropped. That he wasn't dropped/rested for a few games then cant be held against him. The fact that his bad form did not last for ever should not surprise anyone because only an idiot will deny that he is one of the greatest players to have played the game and he wasn't old enough for it to be beyond him.

Unfortunately, many, who had made it there business to run him down (just like many had done nothing but treat him as God) just kept looking for 'failures' to run him down after that. His 90's were not good enough even if he was far and away the highest run getter in the Indian side. He was castigated as being beyond his best and , therefore, by some stupid, convoluted logic, fit for retirement.

People dont retire the moment they are past their best. Nor are they dropped for being past their best. If everyone was to be played only during their peak periods, almost all; careers would have to be cut by half to two thirds. People are dropped when they are not good enough to be in the side, when those who are waiting to replace them are better. This hasn't happened with Tendulkar and those who have failed in their attempts to foist the 'lesser Gods' just have to find something to keep up the rant.

Four or five years ago, I was siting at Bombay airport, waiting for my flight to be announced and there were these two gentlemen heatedly discussing what was wrong with Indian cricket. One of them was very sure of himself. He said, India should drop Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly and replace them with Yuvraj, Kaif, Dinesh Mongia and Hemant Badani and we would replace Australia from the top of both Test and ODI rankings in less than two years time.

The other gentleman vigrously supported his point of view.

Maybe they were right :dry:
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member

People dont retire the moment they are past their best. Nor are they dropped for being past their best. If everyone was to be played only during their peak periods, almost all; careers would have to be cut by half to two thirds. People are dropped when they are not good enough to be in the side, when those who are waiting to replace them are better.
Very very true...And very few people (I am talking about the world outside CW) understannd and appreciate that point...
 

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