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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Oh, no, they underperformed hopelessly, losing to one of the worst Australian ODI sides of recent memory.
    I'm just hoping that this time they might play properly.

    It's amazing how often you say the South Africans underperform.

    Inconceivable that they're not actually anywhere near as good as you make them out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Lee is not substandard or over-rated - he would be the first name as a bowler on ANY teamsheet for any World side.
    I think McGrath and Murali might just edge him out there.

    Still, he's a world class performer in ODIs.
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    this is absolute garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    3 years and more ago.
    And if South Africa got their hands on Australia playing as they played recently they'd annhailate them.
    I also reckon they'd have a decent chance against them in tip-top form.
    i cant breathe....., richard you crack me up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Hogg since 2003\04 has bowled by-and-large poorly and got an extremely flattering record.
    Hayden is a boundary-reliant batsman and has benefited from the poor standard of bowling, as he has in Tests.
    Hogg record since the start of 2004 has by no mean been poor has taken 2 5 wikcets hauls during that period, I agree that the standard of international bowling that Hayden has faced has been poor but he is more than just a boundary reliant batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    i cant breathe....., richard you crack me up.

    its obvious isnt it, South Africa, who have recently just come off a run of 1 win in 14 games (that win was against B'dsh), and have just won a few vs Zimb and WI could murder the Aussies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Oh, no, they underperformed hopelessly, losing to one of the worst Australian ODI sides of recent memory.
    I'm just hoping that this time they might play properly.
    Which Australian ODI side in the last decade has been poor, please refresh my memory???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    I think McGrath and Murali might just edge him out there.

    Still, he's a world class performer in ODIs.
    I would personally pick him ahead of those 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Oh, no, they underperformed hopelessly, losing to one of the worst Australian ODI sides of recent memory.
    I'm just hoping that this time they might play properly.
    convenient that, and if SA 'underperform' for a period of 5 years you'd still claim that they are as good as australia.
    just curious, in the last 4 years, when has this SA ODI side ever 'performed'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    convenient that, and if SA 'underperform' for a period of 5 years you'd still claim that they are as good as australia.
    just curious, in the last 4 years, when has this SA ODI side ever 'performed'?
    his pro-South African bias is baffling....it would be interesting to find out where it comes from..so Richard..a question to you. Why are you so ridiculously biased toawrds South Africa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad
    What was the worst Australian ODI side of recent memory?
    One including Maher, Hayden, Lee, Bichel, Harvey, Watson and Hauritz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    but their isnt a reservoir of form inside a player which slowly drains away the longer you are in form.

    Form is greatly affected by confidence...confidence which is gained by scoring runs in a way a batsman is happy with...and so being in form now actually means you will more likely be in form in a few weeks time.

    And remember you can still be in form and in good nick and get out cheaply.
    No-one can keep scoring runs - fact is there is a "reservoir" as you put it inside pretty much everyone (except Bradman, obviously - and Pietersen to date).
    If you score 5 centuries in 5 innings you are likely to have a run of low scores sooner rather than later.
    Or - if you average 81 in 20 Tests you are likely to have a lengthy sticky patch sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    its funny that when SA lose, they underperformed.

    But its no disgrace losing to Australia, Australia were then and still are a vastly superior one day outfit compared to SA.

    And where this worst one day Aussie team comes into it I dont know!!!

    Unfortunately for you Richard is that this SA team just isnt as good as that one,and even they couldnt win the games that counted
    Australia were not a superior outfit, and while they are now both teams are lesser (Australia because of the possible loss of their aura rather than lesser players) so the contest would more likely be equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    it will be tough to find one, given that in the last 10 years Australia have only lost 40 ODI's...maybe we should be looking for the team that wasnt quite so good as the best, but still miles ahead of every other team in the world
    Or maybe you should be looking beyond results, because there are other things that determine how good a team is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Australia were not a superior outfit, and while they are now both teams are lesser (Australia because of the possible loss of their aura rather than lesser players) so the contest would more likely be equal.
    Equal to a slaughter.

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