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    Pick him for Australia at number 4 in the ODIs I say.

    Haydos the gun, can retire from ODIs, a side like this would be great, especially for Watto.

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    6 Haddin [switch with hussey if you like]
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Pick him for Australia at number 4 in the ODIs I say.

    Haydos the gun, can retire from ODIs, a side like this would be great, especially for Watto.

    1 Marsh
    2 Clarke
    3 Ponting
    4 Watson
    5 Symonds
    6 Haddin [switch with hussey if you like]
    7 Hussey
    Hussey back to 7 below Haddin? And Watto above Symonds? Surely you jest. Both of those two are still above Watto in the pecking order for middle-order spots and are amongst Australia's best-performed ODI players.

    I would suggest the opening spot would be a tussle between Watto and Hopes with Marsh brought in to experiment later in the series if needed. No way will Marsh get a start, as well as he played in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Hussey back to 7 below Haddin? And Watto above Symonds? Surely you jest. Both of those two are still above Watto in the pecking order for middle-order spots and are amongst Australia's best-performed ODI players.

    I would suggest the opening spot would be a tussle between Watto and Hopes with Marsh brought in to experiment later in the series if needed. No way will Marsh get a start, as well as he played in India.
    Nope no jest, I just picked the side I would go for, I didn't mean this series against the Windies cause Watto isn't even in the squad. Just the side they should be looking at selecting down the track.

    Like I said you can pick Hussey and Haddin the other way around, I think it depends on the game situation. Watto ahead of Symonds would be fantastic. I like both of them, just think our lineup looks better with Symonds at 5 rather than 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Like I said you can pick Hussey and Haddin the other way around, I think it depends on the game situation. Watto ahead of Symonds would be fantastic. I like both of them, just think our lineup looks better with Symonds at 5 rather than 4.
    Why? Symonds at 4 has been a powerhouse for years; why on Earth would you want to mess with that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Why? Symonds at 4 has been a powerhouse for years; why on Earth would you want to mess with that?
    Because Shane Watson is a star.

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    He is an awesome talent but I hope he gets his role now.


    He is a batsman, his batting is too good to be wasted. He should not look at himself as a Flintoff or some other bowling all rounder. He is a batsman who can bowl and that is how he should be treated, by himself and by his captains.


    Get him to bat up the order, utilize his talent and technique and get the most runs out of him. And juz have him bowl when all other options have failed or to give your main bowlers a breather. Don't bowl him into the dust and get him injured again and waste an amazing batting talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Because Shane Watson is a star.
    Remind me again of how much they respectively went for in the IPL player's auction and who just won a Test match for his country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Why? Symonds at 4 has been a powerhouse for years; why on Earth would you want to mess with that?
    Symonds has always been at 5, hasn't he? The number 4 slot was passed from Martyn to Clarke to Hussey IIRC.

    Personally think Symonds at 5 and Hussey at 7 will see them as the finishers more often than not - and that's a specialised role requiring experience if ever I saw one. There's enough firepower as is in the top order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Symonds has always been at 5, hasn't he? The number 4 slot was passed from Martyn to Clarke to Hussey IIRC.

    Personally think Symonds at 5 and Hussey at 7 will see them as the finishers more often than not - and that's a specialised role requiring experience if ever I saw one. There's enough firepower as is in the top order.
    The player's wishes also have to be taken into account. Hussey made it clear when he was at 7 that he wasn't particularly enamored with batting so low and not being given the opportunity to build an innings. A quick-fire finishing 30-50 runs is batting junk food to blokes like Hussey. Considering how well he's done since moving up, moving him back down is a backward step in my mind. Batting up top is still seen as something you have to earn and Watto hasn't yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    He is an awesome talent but I hope he gets his role now.


    He is a batsman, his batting is too good to be wasted. He should not look at himself as a Flintoff or some other bowling all rounder. He is a batsman who can bowl and that is how he should be treated, by himself and by his captains.


    Get him to bat up the order, utilize his talent and technique and get the most runs out of him. And juz have him bowl when all other options have failed or to give your main bowlers a breather. Don't bowl him into the dust and get him injured again and waste an amazing batting talent.
    He wasn't bowling much when he was injured in the first place. Christ, don't bowl him at all!

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    BTW Top Cat, a quick look at Symonds ODI stats and he's played 17 times at 4 and averaged 35.92, Batting at 5 he's done that 90 times and averages 45. His strike rate is 7 higher also at 5.

    This is why I want Watson at 4, Symonds at 5.

    Regarding Hussey and Haddin, yes Hussey could go 6,that's why I put in the intial post that it could be the other way around.

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    Yeah Symonds has rarely played at 4 in comparison to 5. Martyn and now Clarke have had the no.4 spot tied down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    He is an awesome talent but I hope he gets his role now.


    He is a batsman, his batting is too good to be wasted. He should not look at himself as a Flintoff or some other bowling all rounder. He is a batsman who can bowl and that is how he should be treated, by himself and by his captains.


    Get him to bat up the order, utilize his talent and technique and get the most runs out of him. And juz have him bowl when all other options have failed or to give your main bowlers a breather. Don't bowl him into the dust and get him injured again and waste an amazing batting talent.
    Agreed. His bowling figures in this tournament flatter him a bit because he faced a lot of batsmen who were very poor against the short-stuff. But his batting was terrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Why? Symonds at 4 has been a powerhouse for years; why on Earth would you want to mess with that?
    Err... what?

    His spot is #5 in ODIs. Has been for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    When he gets back into the Aussie side he'd be wasted at 7. Wouldn't mind seeing him getting the opening slot again.
    He will eventually replace Gill;y imo.

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