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    World Cup Dream XI

    In the "best ODI batsman" thread too much stress has been laid on one world cup final to argue against sachin tendulkar. this thread is to choose a dream world cup xi that will hopefully be a platform for choosing the players who have performed the best in world cup. please stick to stats pertaining to world cup games alone. we've had 9 tournaments so far with 5 different winners. and that should be enough to choose a solid team.

    here are the nominees.

    openers:

    greenidge
    haynes
    gooch
    boon
    gary kirsten
    mark waugh
    sachin
    saeed anwar
    jayasuriya
    ganguly
    gilchrist
    hayden
    gibbs
    fleming

    middle order:

    viv richards
    ponting
    de silva
    lara
    miandad
    steve waugh
    ranatunga
    dravid
    kallis
    martin crowe
    andy flower
    inzamam
    jayawardane
    allan lamb
    alan border
    richardson
    zaheer abbas
    dean jones
    michael bevan
    jonty rhodes

    all rounders:

    imran khan
    kapil dev
    richard hadlee
    chris cairns
    lance klusener
    andrew flintoff


    wicket keepers:


    gilchrist
    sangakkara
    boucher
    moin khan
    mccullum
    healy
    dujon
    rod marsh
    andy flower


    bowlers:

    McGrath
    Akram
    Muralitharan
    Vaas
    Srinath
    Donald
    Warne
    Kumble
    Pollock
    Kapil Dev
    McDermott
    Shoaib Akhtar
    Jayasuriya
    Ambrose
    Abdul Qadir
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Lee
    Waqar
    Holding
    Garner
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    here are the nominees.

    openers:

    greenidge
    haynes
    gooch
    boon
    gary kirsten
    mark waugh
    sachin - 36 games, 1796 runs @ 57.93 (SR 88)
    saeed anwar - 21 games, 915 runs @ 53.82 (SR 79)
    jayasuriya
    ganguly
    gilchrist
    hayden - 22 games, 987 runs @ 51.94 (SR 93)
    gibbs - 25 games, 1067 runs @ 56.15 (SR 87)
    fleming

    middle order:

    viv richards - 23 games, 1013 runs @ 63.31 (SR 85)
    ponting
    de silva
    lara
    miandad
    steve waugh
    ranatunga
    dravid - 22 games, 860 runs @ 61.42 (SR 75)
    kallis - 29 games, 923 runs @ 51.27 (SR 75)
    martin crowe - 21 games, 880 runs @ 55.00 (SR 84)
    andy flower
    inzamam
    jayawardane
    allan lamb - 19 games, 656 runs @ 50.46 (SR 84)
    alan border
    richardson
    zaheer abbas
    dean jones
    michael bevan
    jonty rhodes
    A few > 50 WC averages omissions:

    Turner: 14 games, 612 runs @ 61.20 (SR 64)

    Symonds: 18 games, 515 runs @ 103.00 (SR 93)
    Clarke: 11 games, 436 runs @ 87.20 (SR 95)
    Styris: 18 games, 767 runs @ 69.72 (SR 89)
    Sarwin: 14 games, 584 runs @ 58.40 (SR 84)
    Ganguly: 21 games, 1006 runs @ 55.88 (SR 78)
    Pietersen: 9 games, 444 runs @ 55.50 (SR 81)
    Gower: 12 games, 434 runs @ 54.25 (SR 82)
    Thorpe: 11 games, 379 runs @ 54.14 (SR 74)
    Martyn: 12 games, 352 runs @ 50.28 (SR 80)
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    so what is the minimum criteria?

    300 runs at 30 + average for batters and
    20 wickets at 30 - average for bowlers is a good start?

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    Steve Tikolo anyone?

    23 games 724 runs @ 34.14
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    All these Broad fans are no doubt Kohli fans too. Fans of tosspot wankers.


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    Since its a "dream" XI anyway, why not include me as wicket-keeper batsman

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    Adam Gilchrist (WK)
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Viv Richards
    Ricky Ponting
    Michael Bevan
    Lance Klusener
    Imran Khan (C)
    Richard Hadlee
    Wasim Akram
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Glenn McGrath

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    Go for dream XIs from the Cups of '75, '79, '83 and '87/88 combined IMO.

    Then another for those of '91/92, '95/96, '99, '02/03 and '07.

    Far more interesting.
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    Here's some stats to get us going.

    1970s\80s WCs - batting.
    1970s\80s WCs - bowling.

    1990s\2000s WCs - batting.
    1990s\2000s WCs - bowling.

    Serious teams only included, plus Zimbabwe in 2007, as there was no way to knock them out - fortunately only 2 games are affected.

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    Looking at some of the basic records, I'd be leaning towards this for the 1970s and 1980s:
    Turner
    Greenidge
    Richards
    Zaheer Abbas
    Lamb
    Kapil Dev
    Imran Khan
    Deryck Murray
    Richard Hadlee
    Holding
    Willis

    Can't see that combo being beaten, but there's 1 or 2 I suppose some might tweak if they thought they could make it even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    here are the nominees.
    wicket keepers:

    dujon
    I nominate this West Indian be taken down and replaced by his almost-immediate predecessor. Dujon averaged 18 in World Cups; Deryck Murray 40.

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    my X1

    - Tendulkar
    - Gilchrist [wk]
    - M Crowe
    - Richards
    - Pieterson
    - Klusener
    - Imran [C]
    - Warne
    - Wasim
    - Hadlee
    - Garner
    Fastest gun in town

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    What no Bond ?

    • He has one of the finest world cup records amongst all bowlers.
    • He has 30 wickets in 16 matches
    • Only Brett Lee with 22 in 10 has more wickets per test than him amongst fast bowlers (minimum ten matches)
    • His bowling average of 17.27 per wicket is second only to Holding's (17.07) amongst fast bowlers
    • His strike rate of 29.5 is fabulous


    Surely he should be on that short list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    What no Bond ?

    • He has one of the finest world cup records amongst all bowlers.
    • He has 30 wickets in 16 matches
    • Only Brett Lee with 22 in 10 has more wickets per test than him amongst fast bowlers (minimum ten matches)
    • His bowling average of 17.27 per wicket is second only to Holding's (17.07) amongst fast bowlers
    • His strike rate of 29.5 is fabulous


    Surely he should be on that short list.
    And his 6 for 23 in that match against eventual champions Australia in 2003, has to be amongst the finest spells of fast bowling seen in the world cup.

    Having reduced Australia to 84 for 7, he had to watch Bevan and Bichel lead a recovery while he watched from the outfield his less competent colleagues unable to complete the job.

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    Off the cuff

    1. Tendulkar
    2. Mark Waugh
    3. Viv Richards
    4. Ricky Ponting
    5. Zaheer Abbas
    6. Gilchrist
    7. Kapil Dev
    8. Imran Khan
    9. Shane Warne
    10. Muralitharan
    11. McGrath

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    I intend to do polls for openers and fast bowlers first. i will first post the stats of openers who have scored in excess of 300 runs in world cup games. i will leave the minnows, bangladesh included, out of the opponents. the players themselves could be from any team though.

    I am starting with the assumption that it will be 2 openers + 4 middle order bats + 1 all rounder + 4 bowlers with at least one being a spinner

    If gilly doesnt get selected as opener then we will add the WK category.

    Let us keep the specific arguments to those polls and use this thread for overall arguments
    Last edited by bagapath; 31-05-2008 at 04:05 AM.

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