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View Poll Results: Who is the best ODI batsman of all time?
Sachin Tendulkar 29 43.94%
Sir Vivian Richards 19 28.79%
Michael Bevan 15 22.73%
Ashish Nehra 3 4.55%
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Old 28-05-2008, 08:29 PM   #136 (permalink)
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how could u rate klusener and cronje better batsmen than rhodes..???????/
dont intend to sidetrack the thread (its my thread ) but Jonty, to me, looked like he performed quite a lot more under pressure than a Cullinan or a Cronje or even Smith...
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In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.
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Old 28-05-2008, 08:32 PM   #137 (permalink)
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That's fine. I really couldn't care less what your criteria is. But as long as you make it known at least it is transparent. Maybe if Gilchrist played Kenya in the semis he too would average better
Not a Chance. In the WC against Kenya :- Gilchrist 67, Tendulkar - 177.5, Ponting - 12.00.
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Old 28-05-2008, 08:34 PM   #138 (permalink)
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dont intend to sidetrack the thread (its my thread ) but Jonty, to me, looked like he performed quite a lot more under pressure than a Cullinan or a Cronje or even Smith...
i am not sidetracking ur thread......


& i agree that rhodes performed quite a lot more under pressure than a Cullinan or a Cronje or even Smith...
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Old 28-05-2008, 08:36 PM   #139 (permalink)
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i am not sidetracking ur thread......


& i agree that rhodes performed quite a lot more under pressure than a Cullinan or a Cronje or even Smith...
I meant that "I don't intend to sidetrack the thread"..



Didn't say you were sidetracking at all, mate...
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Old 28-05-2008, 08:39 PM   #140 (permalink)
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How is it nit picking? When I've judged Sachin with the others I've judged them on this term. You can't really make a comparison on 1 inning. Not just 'the' final.
So What are you arguing here ?

Tendulkar has played 4 finals in WC (1 GF, 2 SF and one QF) averages :- 45.75, Gilly averages 50.5 in 6 matches, Ponting 42.25 in 9 matches.

Wow so much of difference. What an eye opener. I am just shattered to know the astronomical difference between the averages of Gilchrist and Tendulkar in all types of Finals in the world cup. It clearly proves thjat Gilchrist is the best ODI batsman ever to walk on the earth.

So much for Ponting being so good in WC All Finals, Except for the 140 Not out against India, he has been ordinary at best.
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So What are you arguing here ?

Tendulkar has played 4 finals in WC (1 GF, 2 SF and one QF) averages :- 45.75, Gilly averages 50.5 in 6 matches.
In fact, if you include must-win games, I guess Gilly's average will go down too.. IIRC, their only must win game was against RSA in the super 6 stage in 99 WC and I don't think he scored too many in that game..


Although Sachin's failure against Sri Lanka in the last WC might bring his stats down too. But we had a clutch of must win games in the 2003 WC as well, where he did well.
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In finals...

Praveen Kumar > Ricky Ponting
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Old 28-05-2008, 10:07 PM   #143 (permalink)
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wtf at no Gilchrist....

He was voted Australia's greatest ODI player ever by his peers....why does Bevan warrant a position in this poll above him...??
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I vote Gilchrist btw.
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wtf at no Gilchrist....

He was voted Australia's greatest ODI player ever by his peers....why does Bevan warrant a position in this poll above him...??
This is for the best batsman; not the best player. Gilchrist's wicket keeping would have played a fairly large part in that vote, but not this one.
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This is for the best batsman; not the best player. Gilchrist's wicket keeping would have played a fairly large part in that vote, but not this one.
I'd be surprised at that

Far more likely that's it's related to career s/r and match-winning innings in the last 3 wc finals
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I'd be surprised at that

Far more likely that's it's related to career s/r and match-winning innings in the last 3 wc finals
I highly doubt he would have been voted in if he wasn't the wicket keeper, myself.
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I would side with the Tendulkar supporters. They played much less ODI cricket in Viv's time, and it was not that important from a financial perspective. If Viv played in the tendulkar era of million dollar sponsership contracts (and had the weight on India on his shoulders) I reckon we'd rate him the best ever.

Where would you guys rate Jayasuriya ?
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tendulkar is the greatest one day opener in history and in the top two of the greatest ever one day batsmen along with richards...all "arguments" that call for a ponting or even more amazing a gilchrist to be rated at par with them are at best clutching at some seriously imaginary straws...
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Where would you guys rate Jayasuriya ?
as a very good one day opener and allrounder....i am not sure about his exact position in a list of great players but tendulkar, richards, haynes, ponting, lara, bevan, probably dean jones, inzy, m.waugh et al as well would come above him...
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