Post WSC test cricket World XI

thestos · 26-05-2008, 08:23 PM

I’ve found an excellent article I came across where has selected a Test Match World XI based on players since the end of World Series Cricket, so essentially in the last 30 years.

He has written quite a bit about each player with career highlights, his own memories and thoughts and detailed justifications for each selection It’s a fantastic side IMO, well balanced and not full of cultural bias and other rubbish we are not interested in. Of course with articles and team selections like this there is always room for conjecture and discussion so it would be great to hear what everyone thinks and some of the selections they would have made with some detailed reasoning.

Shaggy Alfresco · 26-05-2008, 08:28 PM

**** off.

thestos · 26-05-2008, 08:46 PM

1122 posts and that's your idea of an intelligent discussion.....love your work.

gwo · 26-05-2008, 08:52 PM

I don't see why you're so hostile...

The world XI is a good list...

Sunil Gavaskar
Matthew Hayden
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar
Steve Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Wasim Akram
Malcolm Marshall
Shane Warne (c)
Glenn McGrath

Edit: nvm... Thestos is kurt rudder. agression permitted.

Days of Grace · 26-05-2008, 09:12 PM

Gavaskar
Hayden
Ponting
Richards
Tendulkar
Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Hadlee
Wasim Akram
Warne
Muralitharan

thestos · 26-05-2008, 11:52 PM

nice team Days of Grace, fitting both Warne and Murali into the same lineup makes for quite a team with 5 quality bowlers and just as much batting depth with the multiple allrounders. Very solid attack.

I don't rate Ponting's selection whatsoever but that's just my opinion. Once he proves he can bat in India against quality spinners then he would deserve a spot in the batting lineup. He was overawed by Harbhajan Singh last summer on our decks.

SJS · 27-05-2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Gavaskar
Hayden
Ponting
Richards
Tendulkar
Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Hadlee
Wasim Akram
Warne
Muralitharan

The batting looks a bit hmmmm with no specialists beyond number five. Gilchrist is really a number seven test batsman. But I can see the problem. Thats why Botham as an allrounder (or even Kallis) bolsters the batting a bit. Otherwise there are far too many stroke players and just Gavaskar for the 'stodgier' role.

I might try

Gavaskar
Greenidge/Ian Chappell
Greg Chappell/Lara
Richards
Tendulkar
Botham/Kallis
Gilchrist
Imran/Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
Murali

I would have Lillee there before Wasim (or anyone else for that matter)

Days of Grace · 27-05-2008, 12:56 AM

I might consider Kallis for Ponting, actually, due to your point about there being too many attacking batsmen.

Wasim gives your the left-hander variety. And he's the best swing bowler since the WSC started. Enough said.

sanga1337 · 27-05-2008, 01:13 AM

Gavaskar
Hayden
Kallis
Tendulkar
Richards
Gilchrist
Khan
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
Murali

Ikki · 27-05-2008, 01:14 AM

1. Gavaskar
2. Hayden
3. Ponting
4. Richards
5. Lara
6. S.Waugh
7. Gilchrist
8. Imran
9. Warne
10. Lillee
11. Murali/McGrath

weldone · 27-05-2008, 01:22 AM

Is the idea of taking players in their pick? Or, of taking their longetivity also into account?...As those two will result in two different World XI's...

bagapath · 27-05-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thestos

I’ve found an excellent article I came across where has selected a Test Match World XI based on players since the end of World Series Cricket, so essentially in the last 30 years.

He has written quite a bit about each player with career highlights, his own memories and thoughts and detailed justifications for each selection It’s a fantastic side IMO, well balanced and not full of cultural bias and other rubbish we are not interested in. Of course with articles and team selections like this there is always room for conjecture and discussion so it would be great to hear what everyone thinks and some of the selections they would have made with some detailed reasoning.

where can i find this article? who has written it anyway?

i would go for this team

Gavaskar
Greenidge
Viv Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Imran (C)
Gilchrist (WK)
Marshall
Warne
Lillee
Murali

12th man: Botham
Reserves: G. Chappell, R. Hadlee, Ambrose, McGrath, Border

SJS · 27-05-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

I might consider Kallis for Ponting, actually, due to your point about there being too many attacking batsmen.

Wasim gives your the left-hander variety. And he's the best swing bowler since the WSC started. Enough said.

Yes but once you bring Kallis and if you do not reduce a bowler, you actually have six bowlers. One to many I would think.
You might consider retaining Ponting (alongwith Kallis) and removing one of the newe ball bowlers. Considering your point regarding variation that a left armer provides, you would have to decide between Imran and Hadlee. A real tough choice. I would go for whoever I thought was the better bowler irrespective of batting since thats already bolstered. Its still a tough choice.

Since you have a left armer and Imran is essentially an in-swing bowler maybe you could consider Hadlee ... maybe...

weldone · 27-05-2008, 02:14 AM

M. Hayden
S. Gavaskar
B. Lara
S. Tendulkar
J. Miandad
V. Richards
A. Gilchrist (w.k.)
I. Khan (c)
M. Marshall
R. Hadlee
M. Muralitharan

Reserves: G. Greenidge, G. Chappell (12th man), K. Sangakkara, D. Lillee, S. Warne, G. McGrath

bagapath · 27-05-2008, 04:29 AM

some of you may recall that CW members selected a team for 1985-2005 era and one for 1965 - 1985. they were, IIRC

hayden
anwar
ponting
lara
tendulkar
imran
gilchrist
warne
ambrose
murali
mcgrath

and

gavaskar
greenidge
richards
chappell. g
sobers
botham
knott
hadlee
marshall
lillee
underwood

the post WSC team should be a combination these two (minus sobers who retired in '74)

26-05-2008, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
thestos Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2008 Location: australia Posts: 5	Post WSC test cricket World XI I’ve found an excellent article I came across where has selected a Test Match World XI based on players since the end of World Series Cricket, so essentially in the last 30 years. He has written quite a bit about each player with career highlights, his own memories and thoughts and detailed justifications for each selection It’s a fantastic side IMO, well balanced and not full of cultural bias and other rubbish we are not interested in. Of course with articles and team selections like this there is always room for conjecture and discussion so it would be great to hear what everyone thinks and some of the selections they would have made with some detailed reasoning. Last edited by pasag; 27-05-2008 at 01:16 AM. Reason: No ads

26-05-2008, 08:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
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26-05-2008, 08:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
gwo U19 Debutant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 301	I don't see why you're so hostile... The world XI is a good list... Sunil Gavaskar Matthew Hayden Viv Richards Brian Lara Sachin Tendulkar Steve Waugh Adam Gilchrist Wasim Akram Malcolm Marshall Shane Warne (c) Glenn McGrath Edit: nvm... Thestos is kurt rudder. agression permitted. Last edited by gwo; 26-05-2008 at 08:55 PM.

26-05-2008, 09:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,852	Gavaskar Hayden Ponting Richards Tendulkar Gilchrist Imran Khan Hadlee Wasim Akram Warne Muralitharan __________________ Greatest Ever Test XI (according to my ratings): Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman (c), Headley, Lara, Sobers, Gilchrist (wk), Hadlee, Marshall, Steyn, Muralitharan 12th man: Imran Khan Favorite XI: Grace (c), Trumper, Richards, Lara, Compton, Gilchrist (wk), Cairns, Jessop, Warne, Bond, Trueman

27-05-2008, 01:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ikki International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Death Queen Island Posts: 12,032	1. Gavaskar 2. Hayden 3. Ponting 4. Richards 5. Lara 6. S.Waugh 7. Gilchrist 8. Imran 9. Warne 10. Lillee 11. Murali/McGrath __________________ I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh [Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran [Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever. And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara Last edited by Ikki; 27-05-2008 at 01:34 AM.

26-05-2008, 08:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
thestos Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2008 Location: australia Posts: 5	1122 posts and that's your idea of an intelligent discussion.....love your work.

26-05-2008, 11:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
thestos Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2008 Location: australia Posts: 5	nice team Days of Grace, fitting both Warne and Murali into the same lineup makes for quite a team with 5 quality bowlers and just as much batting depth with the multiple allrounders. Very solid attack. I don't rate Ponting's selection whatsoever but that's just my opinion. Once he proves he can bat in India against quality spinners then he would deserve a spot in the batting lineup. He was overawed by Harbhajan Singh last summer on our decks.

27-05-2008, 12:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,852	I might consider Kallis for Ponting, actually, due to your point about there being too many attacking batsmen. Wasim gives your the left-hander variety. And he's the best swing bowler since the WSC started. Enough said.

27-05-2008, 01:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
sanga1337 U19 Captain Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australian living in Japan Posts: 640	Gavaskar Hayden Kallis Tendulkar Richards Gilchrist Khan Hadlee Marshall Warne Murali

27-05-2008, 01:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
weldone International Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kolkata --> Mumbai, India Posts: 5,950	Is the idea of taking players in their pick? Or, of taking their longetivity also into account?...As those two will result in two different World XI's... __________________ "I want to raise my hand and say one thing. Those who complain about my love for the game or commitment to the game are clueless. These are the only 2 areas where I give myself 100 out of 100." - Sachin Tendulkar, as told in an interview published in Bengali newspaper Anandabazar Patrika after his 100th International century (translated by weldone)

27-05-2008, 02:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
weldone International Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kolkata --> Mumbai, India Posts: 5,950	M. Hayden S. Gavaskar B. Lara S. Tendulkar J. Miandad V. Richards A. Gilchrist (w.k.) I. Khan (c) M. Marshall R. Hadlee M. Muralitharan Reserves: G. Greenidge, G. Chappell (12th man), K. Sangakkara, D. Lillee, S. Warne, G. McGrath Last edited by weldone; 27-05-2008 at 02:26 AM.

27-05-2008, 04:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
bagapath International Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,611	some of you may recall that CW members selected a team for 1985-2005 era and one for 1965 - 1985. they were, IIRC hayden anwar ponting lara tendulkar imran gilchrist warne ambrose murali mcgrath and gavaskar greenidge richards chappell. g sobers botham knott hadlee marshall lillee underwood the post WSC team should be a combination these two (minus sobers who retired in '74)

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