Brendon McCullum - over-rated?

Craig · 26-05-2008, 01:08 AM

Well is he? Especially in Test cricket only where he has only two centuries and both were against non Test standard teams so they don't count (

) or is he just trying to be a poor man's Adam, Gilchrist? Vote away and no irrelevent option as I want to know what you think.

LongHopCassidy · 26-05-2008, 01:10 AM

Polls help, Craigos.

He's not FWIW.

social · 26-05-2008, 01:12 AM

Very good bat and keeper - IMO, best keeper/bat in the world at present and should improve further

No point in him trying to live up to Gilchrist or in us comparing him to the latter - Gilly was a freak, so comparisons are unfair

Athlai · 26-05-2008, 01:13 AM

He's got a lot better with the bat since he scored those centuries and we just haven't played enough matches for him to show this really. In ODI's I think his recent form certainly shows his prowess in the shortest form of the game, being even more destructive than Gilchrist (the comparison I always find strange as McCullum scores even more aggressively).

In Tests he is a solid keeper and a handy batsman but he's no Gilchrist (or Sanga's).

Don't think anyone overrates him, he's a genuine danger man.

Craig · 26-05-2008, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy

Polls help, Craigos.

He's not FWIW.

I was making it

sanga1337 · 26-05-2008, 01:15 AM

yes. I still think hes a good player, but the way some commentators and people go on about him you would've thought he was as Gilchrist.

Craig · 26-05-2008, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athlai

He's got a lot better with the bat since he scored those centuries and we just haven't played enough matches for him to show this really. In ODI's I think his recent form certainly shows his prowess in the shortest form of the game, being even more destructive than Gilchrist (the comparison I always find strange as McCullum scores even more aggressively).

In Tests he is a solid keeper and a handy batsman but he's no Gilchrist (or Sanga's).

Don't think anyone overrates him, he's a genuine danger man.

Yeah but some of his shot selection leads me to believe at times that IQ is not the strong point of the McCullum family.

HeathDavisSpeed · 26-05-2008, 01:20 AM

I hear his fitness regimen used to build up his arm muscles was almost 24 hour use of the One Armed Bandits down the local public house!

Anyway, I remain to be convinced that Brendon McCullum isn't just in a rich vein of form. I find that a bit easier to believe. At the moment though, he's in decent nick, and his keeping in this latest test has been pretty exemplary.

Athlai · 26-05-2008, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

Yeah but some of his shot selection leads me to believe at times that IQ is not the strong point of the McCullum family.

Those same shots come off sometimes and he destroys the attack. Reckon its worth it all in all.

He does have that second gear though, where he plays the responsible innings if the circumstances dictate. but now that he plays at five and opens he just goes for it non stop.

Craig · 26-05-2008, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athlai

Those same shots come off sometimes and he destroys the attack. Reckon its worth it all in all.

He does have that second gear though, where he plays the responsible innings if the circumstances dictate. but now that he plays at five and opens he just goes for it non stop.

What sort of % of that coming off though?

Dasa · 26-05-2008, 02:10 AM

Just yesterday during a break in the Test, you had Atherton referring to McCullum as being of the same class as an Adam Gilchrist or Sachin Tendulkar (these were the exact names Atherton used). Very over-rated imo.

weldone · 26-05-2008, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasa

Just yesterday during a break in the Test, you had Atherton referring to McCullum as being of the same class as an Adam Gilchrist or Sachin Tendulkar (these were the exact names Atherton used). Very over-rated imo.

Was he comparing McCullum with Sachin on the basis of keeping abilities?

iamdavid · 26-05-2008, 03:25 AM

Very quickly becoming over-rated for me, for a long time there I think people quite underestimated his value, in part because he always seemed to be so far down the New Zealand order I think. However with a couple of these innings lately it seems nobody can shut up about him, a very handy and potentially dangerous player, but dont mention him in the same sentence as Tendulkar or Gilchrist.

Prince EWS · 26-05-2008, 03:38 AM

He's extremely over-rated as a Test batsman. People talk about how much he's improved recently, but he's done nothing in Test cricket since that supposedly happened, really.

He's a good keeper and a good keeper/batsman ITBT, but he's vastly over-rated as a batsman in Test cricket at this stage.

Craig · 26-05-2008, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

He's extremely over-rated as a Test batsman. People talk about how much he's improved recently, but he's done nothing in Test cricket since that supposedly happened, really.

He's a good keeper and a good keeper/batsman ITBT, but he's vastly over-rated as a batsman in Test cricket at this stage.

So not over-rated in ODI and T20 cricket then?

View Poll Results: Is Brendon McCullum one of the most over-rated cricketers?
Yes - in all formats (inluding wicket-keeping)	4	11.43%
No he is not over-rated	17	48.57%
Batting only in Tests	5	14.29%
Only good at limited overs cricket (ODI & T20)	9	25.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

26-05-2008, 03:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,685	He's extremely over-rated as a Test batsman. People talk about how much he's improved recently, but he's done nothing in Test cricket since that supposedly happened, really. He's a good keeper and a good keeper/batsman ITBT, but he's vastly over-rated as a batsman in Test cricket at this stage. __________________ ~ Cribbage

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Brendon McCullum vs M.S. Dhoni	99*	Cricket Chat	96	25-04-2008 04:47 AM
Caption This: Brendon McCullum	LongHopCassidy	Cricket Chat	14	25-01-2005 12:33 AM
Brendon McCullum - Batting Position	meatspx	Cricket Chat	11	24-02-2004 11:55 AM
Brendon McCullum	nibbs	Cricket Chat	37	10-11-2003 11:22 PM

26-05-2008, 01:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
social International Coach Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 11,044	Very good bat and keeper - IMO, best keeper/bat in the world at present and should improve further No point in him trying to live up to Gilchrist or in us comparing him to the latter - Gilly was a freak, so comparisons are unfair

26-05-2008, 01:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
sanga1337 U19 Captain Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australian living in Japan Posts: 640	yes. I still think hes a good player, but the way some commentators and people go on about him you would've thought he was as Gilchrist.

26-05-2008, 02:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dasa International Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,955	Just yesterday during a break in the Test, you had Atherton referring to McCullum as being of the same class as an Adam Gilchrist or Sachin Tendulkar (these were the exact names Atherton used). Very over-rated imo.

26-05-2008, 03:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
iamdavid International Debutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,111	Very quickly becoming over-rated for me, for a long time there I think people quite underestimated his value, in part because he always seemed to be so far down the New Zealand order I think. However with a couple of these innings lately it seems nobody can shut up about him, a very handy and potentially dangerous player, but dont mention him in the same sentence as Tendulkar or Gilchrist.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)