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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    Well his success is largely based on swing and pace, isn't it. Not bounce.
    Did take wickets in Bangladesh (don't start, they're not infants) with a bouncer as his main weapon though.
    The speed at which a fielding team gets through the innings is overrated.

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    So why did Smith take Steyn off with 2 new batsmen at the wicket?

    EDIT - forget it, he's back on at the other end now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    Having batted a couple of times in my life, and been bowled once or twice, I can say that it's not necessarily a conscious thing. Just a realization of the mistake and an unconscious adjustment. It's not like they're trying to fool your or anyone.
    Ye, I get irritated pretty irrationally, itbt.

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    Nasty, ducked right into that.


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    Man Cook is by far my favourite English batsmen, gutted he got out at a time when England needed him to stay in.

    Vaughan is so meh, haven't rated him for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    Did take wickets in Bangladesh (don't start, they're not infants) with a bouncer as his main weapon though.
    I didn't see the Bangladesh series. But any half decent fast bowler can get a sharp bouncer up regardless of height. Last time I checked Fidel Edwards isn't a giant. The fact remains that Steyn has been such a potent force because of swing and genuine pace, ahead of anything else.

    PS - You don't have to be an infant or even less-than-Test-class to be incapable of playing short-pitched bowling.
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    Looking at the Cook wicket again, the ball actually didn't really bounce much more, he just played it poorly. Should be looking to drop the hands, not play, that sort of ball, and he tried to play it. Got himself in a complete mess.

    That Pietersen strike could have been quite nasty too, fortunately just hit the helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    I didn't see the Bangladesh series. But any half decent fast bowler can get a sharp bouncer up regardless of height. Last time I checked Fidel Edwards isn't a giant. The fact remains that Steyn has been such a potent force because of swing and genuine pace, ahead of anything else.

    PS - You don't have to be an infant or even less-than-Test-class to be incapable of playing short-pitched bowling.
    But it is impressive nonetheless to have a short bowler use the bouncer so effectively.

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    Pietersen down but not out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    But it is impressive nonetheless to have a short bowler use the bouncer so effectively.
    Not that uncommon though. As I said, lesser bowlers have done it. Cue Fidel.

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    Sheeysh Bell is looking unbelievable... so annoying that someone so blatantly good (and he often starts like this) hasn't carried on more often than he has so far.

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    Bell?

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    What a dire over rate. You'd think 4/5 of the South African attack are fast bowlers.

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    What is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    What is it?
    12.3, I think.



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