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    Best bowling attack ever (4 bowlers)

    To complement the top 7 thread.

    Hard to go past:

    Holding
    Marshall
    Roberts
    Garner

    (how many tests did these four play together, I wonder?)

    or:

    McGrath
    Gillespie
    Kasprowicz
    Warne

    (not as strong on paper, but in reality they were the most consistent, probing attack I have ever seen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    To complement the top 7 thread.

    Hard to go past:

    Holding
    Marshall
    Roberts
    Garner

    (how many tests did these four play together, I wonder?)

    or:

    McGrath
    Gillespie
    Kasprowicz
    Warne

    (not as strong on paper, but in reality they were the most consistent, probing attack I have ever seen)
    The English attacks of the mid to late 50s were pretty good on paper (and in the middle)
    You know it makes sense.

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    The dream team West Indies sides of Holding/Marshall/Roberts/Garner and similar rarely played together due to career gaps, injuries etc, and their peaks didn't really coincide. I suppose it's similar to the theoretical lineup of McGrath/Gillespie/Lee/Warne, which would be one of the best ever if Lee was as good at that point as he is today, but the peaks of all 4 never really matched up. They did play a decent number of games as a solid attack though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    To complement the top 7 thread.

    Hard to go past:

    Holding
    Marshall
    Roberts
    Garner

    (how many tests did these four play together, I wonder?)
    Only 6 Test matches - WI won 3 , Drew 3

    4 of them vs. India and 2 Vs. England. Ironically Gavaskar is the only batsman (among the great ones) who faced them all together in a series and scored at an average of 36. It has often been pointed that Gavaskar struggled against the might WI attack, well he only played them in 4 tests.


    McGrath
    Gillespie
    Kasprowicz
    Warne

    (not as strong on paper, but in reality they were the most consistent, probing attack I have ever seen)
    Played 15, Lost 2, Won 10, Drew 3


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    There are so many terrific attacks to chose from. Let me try to list some.

    ENGLAND : mid 1880's to mid 1890's's

    1. George Lohmann
    2. Tom Richardson
    3. Bobby Peel
    4. Johnny Briggs

    The problem with that lot : only three of them actually played in a test match together.

    ENGLAND : 1909

    1. SF Barnes
    2. George Hirst
    3. Colin Blythe
    4. Wilf Rhodes


    ENGLAND : 1932-33

    1. Larwood
    2. Tate
    3. Verity
    4. Bowes/Voce


    It also had Gubby Allen.

    ENGLAND : 1955-56

    1. Tyson
    2. Statham
    3. Trueman
    4. Laker
    5. Bedser


    In support : Trevor Bailey, Tony Lock, Johnny Wardle

    Take your pick

    Those are the best England attacks I could think of.

    Other countries later

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    The rebel SA's in the 1980s had some solid attacks:

    Le Roux
    Van der Bijl
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    Kourie

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    AUSTRALIA : 1946

    1. Lindwall
    2. Miller
    3. Orielly
    4. Johnston


    AUSTRALIA : early 1950's
    1. Lindwall
    2. Miller
    3. Davidson
    4. Benaud


    Johnson and Johnston in addition

    AUSTRALIA : 1970's

    1. Lillee
    2. Thomson
    3. Ashley Mallet
    4. Max Walker
    5. Gary Gilmour


    AUSTRALIA : start of the 21st century

    1. McGrath
    2. Brett Lee
    3. Jason Gillespie
    4. Shane Warne

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    And the all conquering West Indians of the mid 70's and 80's....

    WEST INDIES in England 1976

    1. Roberts
    2. Holding
    3. Daniell
    4. Holder


    WEST INDIES in England 1980

    1. Roberts
    2. Holding
    3. Marshall
    4. Garner


    Croft in attendance.

    WEST INDIES in England 1984

    1. Marshall
    2. Garner
    3. Holding
    4. Harper


    WEST INDIES in England 1988

    1. Marshall
    2. Ambrose
    3. Walsh
    4. Benjamin


    Patterson and Harper for support

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post

    McGrath
    Gillespie
    Kasprowicz
    Warne

    (not as strong on paper, but in reality they were the most consistent, probing attack I have ever seen)
    agreed - incredibly accurate attack..

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    South Africa vs Australia 1957-58

    1. Adcock
    2. Heine
    3. Tayfield
    4. Goddard


    South Africa in Australia 1963

    1. Peter Pollock
    2. Eddie Barlow
    3. Trevor Goddard
    4. Joseph Partridge


    South Africa mid to late sixties

    1. Pollock
    2. Proctor
    3. Barlow
    4. Goddard

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    From an England POV, its annoying that IIRC its 5 best seamers of the 90s never combined to played together in any combination as a 4 man attack, especially as during that time playing no spinner was common. The 5 being Gough, Caddick, Headley, Fraser and Cork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    From an England POV, its annoying that IIRC its 5 best seamers of the 90s never combined to played together in any combination as a 4 man attack, especially as during that time playing no spinner was common. The 5 being Gough, Caddick, Headley, Fraser and Cork
    Thats true though they are not still absolutely top line names.

    Its amazing how England do not have a great attack after the mid fifties while Australia keep regenerating every second decade. Hence England's near failure to really dominate world cricket again while Australia keep resurfacing at the top 70's and since 90's. The West Indians of the 70's and 80's and the South Africans of the sixties fill the gaps.

    A great attack will always be a pre-requisite to world dominance in the longer version of the game hence the clear correlation between the great sides and great attacks.

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    Not sure if this attack played together (Statsguru probably has the answer but I can't be arsed to look it up) but it's an interesting thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    McGrath
    Gillespie
    Kasprowicz
    Warne

    (not as strong on paper, but in reality they were the most consistent, probing attack I have ever seen)
    Great attack but Kasprowicz was always more of a workhorse than a strike bowler.

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    Hadlee
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    Morrison

    Bracewell unfortunately if you want a spinner
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