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Let's go through it nice and slowly now...
In the other thread, I was talking about a batsman, and how it's less tiring for a batsman to field than bat. Now I am talking about a bowler and a batsman, and saying that extreme heat and humidity makes life far more difficult for bowlers than batsmen.
See the difference?
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Same I was thinking. ^^^
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No, it's not a correction, it's a de-correction. It's changing it to the way you'd like it to be, because there's no contradiction in what I actually said and you want there to be one.
However, most people realise that there's quite a considerable difference between fielding for 20 overs and bowling 10 overs out of 20. Or something similar to that.
I see. Well, I assure you, it was bowlers (who are "in the field") who I was referring to. That should be fairly obvious, I'd have thought, given a fielder cannot get a batsman out, and it is not the field a batsman has to repel.
Nonetheless, I can now expect the haha-you-contradicted-yourself crap. Good effort, lads.
So, um... where else are bowlers, then?
Between 1866 and 1876, roundarm bowling still played a crucial role, swing bowling was non existent, googlies and doosras were yet to be discovered, lob bowling was a respected art form, and most fast bowlers span the ball. Furthermore, I have my doubts as to the general standard of batting in first class cricket prior to the golden age. In 1878, AG Steel took 164 first class wickets at 9 runs apeice, a feat not approached by any 20th or 21st century bowler, yet his Wisden obituary states "Steel's bowling perhaps, owed its success to a certain trickiness, with the usual result that as a batsman found his tricks out, so he became rather less effective" - hardly a glowing tribute. In 1903, Lord Hawke wrote "County matches have grown in importance until they practically monopolise all the attention and interest of the cricket loving community, absolutely eclipsing the games to which our fathers looked forward with most eager anticipation. Gone are the good old North and South, those pleasant exhibition matches, gone too are the Over Thirty and Under Thirty... County fixtures have materially raised the standard of the game: they have made cricket very superior in quality to what it used to be."
Notwithstanding the improvements in pitch preparation, the fact that batting averages almost doubled between the 1870s and the first decade of the 20th century suggests strongly that the vast majority of this improvement was on the batting front (indeed, between 1866 and 1876, footwork was looked down upon, there were no leg glances and very few hook shots, and it was considered bad manners to hit good balls for runs or off side balls to leg etc), in which case, had Grace been born a generation later, he would not have towered over his colleagues to the extent suggested in your crazy extrapolation (although one could argue that these improvements would not have occured so early without the influence of Grace himself).
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^^For those reasons, I've always been happy to say only that Grace was a master of cricket as it was played at his time. It's fairly safe to say he'd be damn good, very possibly one of England's better batsmen in history, had he played in the 20th-century. But would he have been a Bradmanesque player? Really impossible to say.
Grace was merely a master of his time. To suggest anything more as a matter of course would be foolish.
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