View Poll Results: How would Sir Donald Bradman go in today's era of cricket?

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  • Very very good

    18 25.71%
  • He would of been found by the better quality of bowlers

    2 2.86%
  • Still would the best batsman ever

    39 55.71%
  • I have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    Someone mentioned earlier about Bradman never having had to face swing and then talked of the Bond ball and Wasim's hving perfected it (swing) to a fine art.

    I honestly cant say if this is funny or ridiculous. But I suppose it is just sad. So sad that there is so much feeling for the game and yet so little knowledge of its history and its finer points which are really what make it the great game that it truly is.

    Who is responsible for such terrible cricket illiteracy ?
    I just noted that any batsmen may have struggled against some of Wasim's finer balls, but that is a widely accepted fact. For example, his infamous ball against Croft may well have flummoxed Bradman as it did Croft.
    The speed at which a fielding team gets through the innings is overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nope, never bowled the first over and only in exceptional circumstances opened the attack. Vaas always did that.

    Between 2001/02 and 2005/06 SA have had a Pollock who could only be effective on seaming pitches, a Ntini who was sometimes that and never effective on non-seamers, a Steyn who was rubbish in the few Tests he played, a Nel who bowled well occasionally, and nothing else.

    England and SA have very little similarity.
    I think I should just take the SJS route and leave this alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    , if Bradman still wasn't the best ever, then who would be?
    ...and why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    For god's sake, you just said every country bar Australia of the past few years is on par with S.Africa and W.Indies of the 30s.
    No, I didn't. I said bowling-attacks of both were poor.
    You should be kicked out of the forum for this statement alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    ...and why ?
    Yes, that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Really not sure about that. The only team who've consistently had an excellent attack for the last 7 years has been Australia. Sri Lanka probably had the 2nd-best over that entire time, but even their spearhead (Vaas) can be either brilliant or awful. India's attack has often been threadbare (though of course Kumble in Bradman's time would have been deadly on uncovered wickets - but in his own he was mostly a home-track bully). Pakistan have had many useless bowlers and the one decent one they've had has not played anywhere near as much as he should have. England and South Africa have had the odd superlative attack and much rubbish.

    These attacks were little if at all better than the South African and West Indian attacks of the 1930s.
    I struggle to believe that. I'm fairly convinced the only good attack he could have faced was the English. Unless my memory of WI cricket fails me, they only had one good player in Headley. I'm fairly sure the bowling wasn't up to much either. In those easrly years, the WI could not be classed as a good team.
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Climatic conditions don't really have all that much effect on batsmen, though. The most difficult climatic conditions to counter as a batsman have always generally been in England, and he played here much.
    Temperature has no effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    To those that are saying Bradman would have been "Very very good" and not "Still would the best batsman ever", if Bradman still wasn't the best ever, then who would be?
    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    ...and why ?
    I maintain he'd be the best ever. Just rubbishing those saying he'd average in the 150s and would have no average since he wouldn't be out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    To those that are saying Bradman would have been "Very very good" and not "Still would the best batsman ever", if Bradman still wasn't the best ever, then who would be?
    I don't know. As much as a number of people are trying, it's impossible to say how well someone from another era would go now. I said Bradman would be very very good because I don't doubt that mentally he'd be the same as he was in the 30's. That doesn't change. I have doubts about the comparison of levels. I know there were some very good bowlers back in the 30's, but players are generally more professional now and are able to devote all of their time to cricket. I can't say for sure there'd be no difference in performance/fitness between now and then. There are a lot of other variables to take into consideration too, some of which would make batting easier now (such as covered wickets and better groundsmen perhaps).

    None of us can say for certain that he'd be the best batsman ever still if he was playing in these times, he may be in amongst a bunch of exceptional players averaging 50+. To ask 'well, who would be then' is requesting more speculation on something unquantifiable. Who knows!? Maybe we'd find out a Bradman in the 30's is a Tendulkar in the 00's. Maybe he'd continue to outscore anyone and everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roseboy64 View Post
    I struggle to believe that. I'm fairly convinced the only good attack he could have faced was the English. Unless my memory of WI cricket fails me, they only had one good player in Headley. I'm fairly sure the bowling wasn't up to much either. In those easrly years, the WI could not be classed as a good team.
    West Indies had Constantine, Martindale, Francis and Griffith, all very decent seam-bowlers, in their early days. Headley was their one decent batsman, but he was so good he was easily worth two normal batsmen.

    Yes, SA and WI did struggle of times, but there's millions of times attacks from most countries struggled from 2001/02 onwards. I don't see anything suggesting these attacks were significantly better than those of the South African, and certainly not the English and West Indian, ones from the 1930s.
    Temperature has no effect?
    Not enormously. If it makes it harder for batsmen, it makes it even harder for fielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseboy64 View Post
    I maintain he'd be the best ever. Just rubbishing those saying he'd average in the 150s and would have no average since he wouldn't be out.
    Those are exaggerations, but you get the point - wicket-taking balls at the current time are even rarer than they were in Bradman's day. Generally, it would take a wicket-taking ball to get Bradman out - this is what made him so extraordinarily special. Whereas most batsmen play bad shots pretty regularly, he just hardly ever did. Greater "professionalism" won't change that.

    If Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis, etc. can average 70, which they have, then I see no reason Bradman could not have doubled that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post

    Not enormously. If it makes it harder for batsmen, it makes it even harder for fielders.
    Doesnt this completely contradict your argument of less than a week ago?

    Ah well, new thread = new claim

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    Err - to what exactly do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Doesnt this completely contradict your argument of less than a week ago?

    Ah well, new thread = new claim


    Good catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Err - to what exactly do you prefer?
    That bastmen prefer less time to bat or somethng about preference of being in the field.

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    Hahahahaha, how stupid (or looking-for-any-tenuous-link-you-can-find desperate) would you have to be to link those two?

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