ICL -should it be ICC endorsed

[slugger]

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/347580.html

Should the ICC endorse the ICL as they continue to offer big money to players and are still on the hunt for more. They kick off again Oct 08.

The FTP should accomodate the IPL and the ICL, the reason I believe the ICL should be endorsed is because I dont think the IPL can accomadate all the internationals. Which means more players may for go ther internationa commitments (as per article). With further suggestion the ECB to luanch a 6 team 20/20 comp.

this gives a total of 24 teams spread around the world 3 different comps and 3 different windows for a large selection of international talant the opportunity to make cash in a short period and give the freedom to play for there countries.. etc..

 

[Arjun]

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/347580.html

Should the ICC endorse the ICL as they continue to offer big money to players and are still on the hunt for more. They kick off again Oct 08.

The FTP should accomodate the IPL and the ICL, the reason I believe the ICL should be endorsed is because I dont think the IPL can accomadate all the internationals. Which means more players may for go ther internationa commitments (as per article). With further suggestion the ECB to luanch a 6 team 20/20 comp.

this gives a total of 24 teams spread around the world 3 different comps and 3 different windows for a large selection of international talant the opportunity to make cash in a short period and give the freedom to play for there countries.. etc..

The ICL is a joke and also a pain, but there's nothing that suggests that it should be banned.

 

[Craig]

From a New Zealand cricket fan's perspective I wish it would, but that is to get Shane Bond back and recall Andre Adams to the Test team (I doubt he would of been any worse then Grant Elliott).

 

[Richard]

There is no way any authority can ever endorse a competition run with the specifically stated aim of disrupting the game, and being run in the interest of one person and one TV network only.

The ICL, exactly like World Series Cricket, is a "pirate" venture, and one that cricket's authorities would be neglecting their duty if they didn't try to kill-off. There is no way WSC or ICL games should ever be regarded as anything other than a privately-owned competition, just like games on Sir Paul Getty's lawn.

 

[DaRick]

There is no way any authority can ever endorse a competition run with the specifically stated aim of disrupting the game, and being run in the interest of one person and one TV network only.

The ICL, exactly like World Series Cricket, is a "pirate" venture, and one that cricket's authorities would be neglecting their duty if they didn't try to kill-off. There is no way WSC or ICL games should ever be regarded as anything other than a privately-owned competition, just like games on Sir Paul Getty's lawn.

I agree...I'd also like to add that endorsement by the ICC means absolutely nothing these days, but that's another issue altogether.

 

[chaminda_00]

There is no way any authority can ever endorse a competition run with the specifically stated aim of disrupting the game, and being run in the interest of one person and one TV network only.

The ICL, exactly like World Series Cricket, is a "pirate" venture, and one that cricket's authorities would be neglecting their duty if they didn't try to kill-off. There is no way WSC or ICL games should ever be regarded as anything other than a privately-owned competition, just like games on Sir Paul Getty's lawn.

There are quite a few private/commerical run competition that are allowed to be played and don't force players to be banned from International Cricket. Until a couple years back Sri Lanka had a commerical run OD competition in which the selectors placed greater value to performances then in their own domestic competition. It not a case of making matches official. It just so players have a chance to play in these competitions and earn more money then otherwise they will be able to and not forfeit their International or domestic careers.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Poll lacking a "not caring" option, clearly.

As a semi-related follow-up, do the runs scored/wickets taken/catches held in the ICL show up on a player's official 20/20 figures? I'm guessing not, but am too lazy to check.

 

[Richard]

No, 'course not. The ICL, like WSC, is outlawed - nothing counts to anything.

 

[chaminda_00]

Poll lacking a "not caring" option, clearly.

As a semi-related follow-up, do the runs scored/wickets taken/catches held in the ICL show up on a player's official 20/20 figures? I'm guessing not, but am too lazy to check.

Nope

 

[Richard]

There are quite a few private/commerical run competition that are allowed to be played and don't force players to be banned from International Cricket. Until a couple years back Sri Lanka had a commerical run OD competition in which the selectors placed greater value to performances then in their own domestic competition. It not a case of making matches official. It just so players have a chance to play in these competitions and earn more money then otherwise they will be able to and not forfeit their International or domestic careers.

If these private things are run not in direct competition to the proper cricket, obviously that's fine. If they are, such as the ICL, though, it's completely different.

 

[Richard]

PUBLIC POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[chaminda_00]

If these private things are run not in direct competition to the proper cricket, obviously that's fine. If they are, such as the ICL, though, it's completely different.

What if they are run in direct competition to extising domestic clubs, as was the case in Sri Lanka. None of domestic clubs in Sri Lanka were letting the companies in Sri Lanka have any real involvement in domestic cricket in Sri Lanka, so unless you could pay to sponsor the National team or ODI tournment then you were basically left out of cricket in Sri Lanka. The situation with the private OD leagues in Sri Lanka weren't that much different to ICL. Basically were getting freezed out, so they came up with their own thing.

 

[Richard]

Seems odd TSTL that clubs were turning-down things which could benefit cricket in Sri Lanka - and that the BCCSL was allowing it (if it had any power to do so or otherwise).

Hasn't cricket in Pakistan seen clubs and corporations co-enact for decades now?

 

[chaminda_00]

Seems odd TSTL that clubs were turning-down things which could benefit cricket in Sri Lanka - and that the BCCSL was allowing it (if it had any power to do so or otherwise).

Hasn't cricket in Pakistan seen clubs and corporations co-enact for decades now?

No they did the same thing that Sri Lanka are doing now separate competitions. The whole thing comes down to politics and who really controls in cricket in Sri Lanka. The clubs would have less politicial control in Sri Lanka. If they let businessmen run the clubs and fund them, rather then politicians.

Most of the clubs in Sri Lanka have more interest in themselves then the good of cricket in Sri Lanka. The commerical companies in Sri Lanka wanted to shake things up, to improve the standard of cricket in Sri Lanka and make the game more profitable. But to do that they had to get rid of some deadweight. But the deadweight didn't want to this happen and blocked any changes with their politicial influence.

Things are changing now and there is commerical run competition, Inter-Provincial Championship. But the movement for change is continually getting blocked by domestic clubs and most have major influence in SLC.

Only real difference between the ICL and this private league in Sri Lanka, was one was fighting a smaller fish the clubs, not the board (well not the board directly).

 

[_Ed_]

Voted no.

Any cricket league that has has-beens like Adam Parore playing in it has very little credibility IMO.

 

[social]

There is no way any authority can ever endorse a competition run with the specifically stated aim of disrupting the game, and being run in the interest of one person and one TV network only.

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As opposed to the interests of one Board and any tv network that pays them cash?

 

[slugger]

Voted no.

Any cricket league that has has-beens like Adam Parore playing in it has very little credibility IMO.

I doubt parore would be retained and probably many others. If the ICL was endorsed.

 

[Shaggy Alfresco]

There is no way any authority can ever endorse a competition run with the specifically stated aim of disrupting the game, and being run in the interest of one person and one TV network only.

No cricket league is ever set up with the stated aim of disrupting the game. That's ridiculous, since they're playing the damn game. They can be set up with the stated aim of disrupting "authority" as you put it, though this authority also happens to control cricket, and probably where you get the idea private leagues are trying to kill cricket just because they're not endorsed by national boards.

 

[Arjun]

If these private things are run not in direct competition to the proper cricket, obviously that's fine. If they are, such as the ICL, though, it's completely different.

I don't see the point in banning the players in this league from playing officially. If they quit and wish to return to the mainstream, the officials should let them return. The players should know what's good for them.

Players who value the national cap will stay far, far away from the ICL- even if they struggle to make ends meet. The ICL is a laughing stock, given the schedule, the selection of players, the marketing hype and the quality of cricket (more coming in a forthcoming article) but banning the players just because they wanted to get a few games is pointless, and only destructive.

 

[Arjun]

I doubt parore would be retained and probably many others. If the ICL was endorsed.

Indian Charity League? Maybe, if you look at several semi-retired and long-retired players and domestic extras filling the teams. It's easy to get a cap in ICL.

In comparison, we find that getting an IPL cap is very tough. Hopefully the Icon Player thing goes out of the window and some high-profile non-performers will be dropped in some time.