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I would like to challenge this.
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Why australian batsmen score more century at Home ??
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SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I am not so sure this is very significant except in the case of Hayden.
Lets compare the record of the leading current Indian batsmen against the leading Australian batsmen and see the innings/century (much fairer than tests per century). We find that Only Ganguly of the top five Indian batsmen has a significantly better home record in this regard. Dravid on the other hand has a better away record. The overall record of the five Indians is about same away and at home.
I left out Yuvraj since he hasn't played enough test cricket (particularly at home) yet for his figures to be really relevant.
When you look at the current Aussies (I have included the very recently retired Gilchrist you find that of those who have played a lot of test cricket, Hayden shows a better record at home which is off set by Gilchrists better away record. Ponting is more or less even. I left out Hussey for reasons similar to Yuvraj. He has played only five matches away from home just as Yuvi has played only as many at home.
The fourth player in the Aussie list, Clarke shows a BIG bias in favour of home games but he has played so few games compared to the other three that it still doesn't make much of a difference to the overall Aussie record which shows a better performance at home but not by much.
Lets compare the record of the leading current Indian batsmen against the leading Australian batsmen and see the innings/century (much fairer than tests per century). We find that Only Ganguly of the top five Indian batsmen has a significantly better home record in this regard. Dravid on the other hand has a better away record. The overall record of the five Indians is about same away and at home.
I left out Yuvraj since he hasn't played enough test cricket (particularly at home) yet for his figures to be really relevant.
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Home Away
Tests Innings 100's I/100 Tests Innings 100's I/100 Diff(+/-)
Ganguly 46 76 7 10.9 60 98 7 14.0 -3.1
Dravid 53 92 9 10.2 69 118 16 7.4 2.8
Laxman 40 63 5 12.6 53 88 7 12.6 0.0
Sehwag 25 43 7 6.1 32 53 7 7.6 -1.4
SRT 63 103 16 6.4 84 135 23 5.9 0.6
[B]Overall 227 377 44 8.6 298 492 60 8.2 0.4[/B]The fourth player in the Aussie list, Clarke shows a BIG bias in favour of home games but he has played so few games compared to the other three that it still doesn't make much of a difference to the overall Aussie record which shows a better performance at home but not by much.
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HOME AWAY
Tests Innings 100's I/100 Tests Innings 100's I/100 Diff (+/-)
Gilchrist 55 75 7 10.7 41 62 10 6.2 4.5
Hayden 51 89 21 4.2 43 78 9 8.7 -4.4
Ponting 68 112 19 5.9 48 81 15 5.4 0.5
Clarke 19 27 5 5.4 14 23 1 23.0 -17.6
[B]Overall 193 303 52 5.8 146 244 35 7.0 -1.1[/B]
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
SJS is here again. 
Having just checked your recent post history I find you've been here on-and-off for the last 2 months.
But having not noticed that I was getting worried about you. 
BTW, any chance you could add your part?
Having just checked your recent post history I find you've been here on-and-off for the last 2 months.
But having not noticed that I was getting worried about you. BTW, any chance you could add your part?
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
As others have said, it really isn't much of a talking point with the aforementioned players apart from Hayden who has a significant distance between his home and away records. However, even that's mitigated somewhat considering he averages about 70 at the Gabba which is one of the most liveliest pitches in the world.
Australia has been so great away, it's not that unusual to see them even better at home - as teams usually are.
Australia has been so great away, it's not that unusual to see them even better at home - as teams usually are.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Oh I have just been busy with finishing my new home (which is now done) and then with a big house warming party for which we had family and friends visiting from all over and staying for upto 2 weeks !! Then we took time off to recuperateSJS is here again.
Having just checked your recent post history I find you've been here on-and-off for the last 2 months.
Thanks for the concern Richard
Done.
bond21
Banned
dont take it so personally?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Daym, sounds good. Hope you'll be back to regular participation now.Oh I have just been busy with finishing my new home (which is now done) and then with a big house warming party for which we had family and friends visiting from all over and staying for upto 2 weeks !! Then we took time off to recuperate
Precambrian
Banned
The simple reason is that Australia and England play more home tests than any other country. (Can someone put stats for English batters also?). No wonder Ricky's test runs look so awesomely skewed in favor of home runs against away runs.
Australian conditions have definitely become easier for batting but, having said that, McGrath & Co havent had too many problems humbling the opposition
Bottom line is that either some opposition players arent as good as their stats would have you believe or some Australians are better - probably a combination of the 2
Precambrian
Banned
McGrath & Warne could do well literally anywhere in the world.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Sometimes because opposition have simply fallen in a heap.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
He averages about 53 (which is about the same as Tendulkar) away from home. Not sure how skewed that is and how many batsmen match that record. His away average is even that just because of India. Disregarding India he averages a whopping 62 away.
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Nah, he'll remain a crap player however many Test centuries he gets ITBT. Not that there's any chance whatsoever of him getting 20.This will bite you on the ass in 5 years time if he has 20 odd test tons
slowfinger
International Debutant
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No he won't. If Symonds starts averaging 50+ over the next three or four years without getting dropped everytime he makes a decent score, then he'll be a good batsman.
Not that I can see it happening.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Not sure where you are getting your data from but Ponting's away average is 51.34, Whereas Tendulkar's Away Average is 55.58.
And why would you disregard India ? Because it suits your argument ?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Hhahahaahahah.
Let's remove the weaknesses of everyone's records now hey.
Sami, taking away all the games he got smashed around the park in, is a pretty damn good bowler then.
sideshowtim
Banned
I think it just shows that his record in India is a bit of an abberation. He has had great success in all other parts of Asia and overseas so...
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Ponting has matches on neutral soil - notice the term: away from home. They were very good knocks in very tough matches.
Tendulkar averages 55.58 counting Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.
No, I am not saying we should disregard it. But it gives you another picture of his performance away from home seeing as his only performances in India drag his away average down. It's quite a difference that Ponting averages 62 everywhere else and about 15 in India.
Read the above. Not my intention to remove Ponting's weakness. I thought it gave a another look into his record. It's quite telling what I pointed out. If you think it doesn't matter, then it still doesn't matter because his away record is still very good.
Your comparison also doesn't make any sense. Ponting has only been poor in one country. Not even two.
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