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    Should this happen?

    Dhoni rewards Green Park curator

    Kanpur: A grateful Mahendra Singh Dhoni sent a note of thanks and Rs. 10,000 to Green Park stadium’s pitch curator for preparing the turning track that helped India score a series-levelling win over South Africa in the third Test here.

    Curator Shiv Kumar said he was pleasantly surprised to receive a personal note of thanks and the cash reward from the stand-in Test skipper.

    Kumar said regular Test skipper Anil Kumble, who missed the decider due to a groin injury, also came down to meet and thank him for preparing a “spinner-friendly” pitch.

    Off-spinner Harbhajan Singh also met Kumar to praise and thank him. Kumar said that the Green Park wicket was a sporting one. — PTI


    I'm surprised no one here has noticed this or said anything about it. What would the media do if say, Smith, offered a cheque to the curator at Johannesburg for preparing a green top? What kind of example is this setting to the rest of the curators in India? Prepare a favourable wicket and get money from the team captain?

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    It actually smacks of corruption. But in essence the whole world knew the pitch was 'doctored' in any case.

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    Suspicious, to say the least.

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    Well $10,000 Rs. is chump change, but as a principle, this is a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    But in essence the whole world knew the pitch was 'doctored' in any case.
    Right, everyone knows that India losing the toss batting last means that they had the favorable conditions.

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    Is making your home pitch spin really doctoring it though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Is making your home pitch spin really doctoring it though?
    Well, it could be if the pitch spins an abnormal amount, ala Mumbai 2004 or even Delhi 1996 (both, interestingly, versus Australia; Waugh called the latter pitch a 'masterpiece', designed to take advantage of a weakened Australian team).

    Oh yes, BTW, giving a curator money (no matter how insignificant) for preparing 'the right pitch' is a slightly...er...dubious thing to do, no matter how well intentioned. It can give the message that "hey, if we prepare a track that may help India unduly (at least, in theory), we'll get some money". India's seamers, some of which are promising, may also get disheartened and lose focus. As such, India may revert back to the bad ol' days of the 1990's, where they were capable of routing Australia at home but became minnow-standard as soon as they left the comfort of their home country, due to the unfamiliarity of seamers (not to mention batting line-ups) with wickets other than turners.
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    It sounds highly irregular but it doesnt overly bother me.
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    No it shouldn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    It sounds highly irregular but it doesnt overly bother me.
    Surprised at your saying that tbh.

    Don't care if the pitch turns, but not a good look for a captain to be doing that imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Surprised at your saying that tbh.

    Don't care if the pitch turns, but not a good look for a captain to be doing that imo.
    My only issues would be if it was a clear break of the rules. I dont know if it was.

    I think it looks strange, but both teams had to play on the track and we have known for generations that certain places produce pitches to suit the needs of the home team. Is this that different?

    Unless the rules legislate against it, then it looks awkward and clumsy rather than sinister.

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    What is 'doctoring a pitch'. Its within a team's rights to have the pitch play to their strengths?

    Why he's giving out rewards though is pretty stupid, and I'd rather it not occur. I'm not comfortable, but I don't think its corruption, because they're not trying to cover up anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    It actually smacks of corruption. But in essence the whole world knew the pitch was 'doctored' in any case.
    Bull****
    Its the right of the home team to prepare any type of wicket helpful to its players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    What is 'doctoring a pitch'. Its within a team's rights to have the pitch play to their strengths?
    Well, of course it is acceptable for an Indian curator to prepare a pitch according to perceived Indian team strengths. That is the traditional point of home advantage.

    Hmm...I always thought of pitch doctoring as modifying a pitch to the extent where it both plays to a team's strengths to a ridiculous degree and cynically exploits the weaknesses of opposition teams at the same time...well, to the point where there is usually not much chance of a contest occuring. Mumbai 2004 would be a good example, for mine (except for the contest part, but that was due to Indian incompetence against Michael Clarke more than anything - 150 would've been near-impossible to chase on that deck). If your name is Steve Waugh, Delhi 1996 may be another.

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    Really don't see the problem with this. The amount is an absolute pittance as well.

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