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  • Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards

    39 43.33%
  • Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar

    48 53.33%
  • Geoffrey Boycott

    3 3.33%
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Thread: Vivian Richards vs Sachin Tendulkar

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    SRT for me, but not by a significant amount at all. I don't really care to dissect the records of either player either - they're both among the best batsmen the game has ever produced and it's not really of much significance whether one is slightly better than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    LOL, are you trying to suggest Shoaib Akhtar, Wasim Akram and Saqlain Mushtaq were not a formidable force?
    As usual you have tried to spin my argument. Show me where I said that Saqi, & Akhtar were not a formidable force. Sachin Absoultrly hammered them in Multan.

    And yes, whilst Ponting didn't get to face Waqar and Wasim as much as (which is only one less than Tendulkar), Tendulkar averaged 9 against the same "easybeats" Ponting scored runs off.
    Yeah and Tendulkar was averaging 60+ against the easy beats Ponting struggled to cross 40.

    Then, we have also the S.Africans, where there can be no question here that Tendulkar failed against and Ponting dominated.
    Ponting played only 3 tests against the SAffies in the 90s that too at home, averaged <50, hardly the hammering that you talk about.

    BTW, when Ponting actually kept to one position...
    Yeah when nothing else works.

    So he beat the 'great' attacks of the 90s just as well as Tendulkar did
    No he didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaZoH0lic View Post
    Even Bradman got out occasionally, which is directly correlating with what the above comparison actually says... which is nothing. I don't see your point Jono.

    When Ponting has 7-8 years of scoring 46 runs on average (disregarding minnows), then we'll compare. Thus far, he's had no such poor form like Sachin's.
    a) He never faced Warne and McGrath, and even Gillespie.
    b) http://stats.cricinfo.com/australia/...99;type=decade

    Read Sachin's stats in the 90s.
    Read everyone else's stats.
    Then watch him bat.

    Sachin is a ****ing master.
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    Emulating a Richards is more difficult than a Tendulkar.
    One could find more batsmen of Tendulkar's ilk than of Richards ilk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Engle View Post
    Emulating a Richards is more difficult than a Tendulkar.
    One could find more batsmen of Tendulkar's ilk than of Richards ilk.
    People seem to have this idea that because Richard's was more unorthodox, it means that it is more difficult to bat like him. For me, batting like Tendulkar would just about be the most difficult thing that there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan View Post
    I will start off by commending Richard for starting a versus thread that actually has some merit and is worth debating and for picking an irrelevant third option that entices no one.
    Truly remarkable (and by quoting this I'm guessing someone will vote the irrelevant third option on purpose now).

    But it just goes to show how amazingly brilliant both batsmen were, that so much serious discussion has resulted from the comparison, with everyone voting one way or the other and not screwing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    People seem to have this idea that because Richard's was more unorthodox, it means that it is more difficult to bat like him. For me, batting like Tendulkar would just about be the most difficult thing that there is.
    I think it's more that if someone goes to you, "Hey, come watch this guy bat, he's one of the best ever", you'd probably expect him to bat like Sachin; eliminating risks where appropriate, glorious straight bat, etc.

    You wouldn't expect to roll along and see this person bat like Richards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    I think it's more that if someone goes to you, "Hey, come watch this guy bat, he's one of the best ever", you'd probably expect him to bat like Sachin; eliminating risks where appropriate, glorious straight bat, etc.

    You wouldn't expect to roll along and see this person bat like Richards.
    Yeah pretty much. Tendulkar has the a technique that is as close to perfect as I believe can be (physically) and whilst he manages that, and scoring bucketloads of runs against all the best attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Yeah pretty much. Tendulkar has the a technique that is as close to perfect as I believe can be (physically) and whilst he manages that, and scoring bucketloads of runs against all the best attacks.
    Not really .Struggled against guys like Allan donald ,Ambrose ,never faced Ws at their prime in tests . He has a pretty good average against Aussie line up minus Mcgrath .

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    Never faced the Ws in their prime? He faced them when Tendulkar was 16 and they were at the top of their game!

    Unless you were being sarcastic which I gather from the you were.

    Still not even the biggest Tendulkar hater could accuse sachin of not facing the Ws at their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Never faced the Ws in their prime? He faced them when Tendulkar was 16 and they were at the top of their game!

    Unless you were being sarcastic which I gather from the you were.

    Still not even the biggest Tendulkar hater could accuse sachin of not facing the Ws at their best.
    Correct me if i am wrong Ws peak time was 1990-1996.

    In that series ,Waqar was a debutant and Wasim was picking his game up,still he was at his best after 1990 Australian series .For Waqar 1990 NZ series ,he picked up his peak .

    However i would appreciate a Sixteen year olds guts to face that attack at their home . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Nahh, a lot earlier than that IMO.
    Wasim was very injury prone prior to 1990 ,had two operations and Waqar had a slow start like 4 wickets in 4 tests ,both of them were fit and at their best ,during 1990-1996 from what i saw.

    PS : I am not a Tendulkar hater , a huge fan ,but not a blind fan .

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    Having seen tapes of Viv's great knocks I can say he was an incredible force as a batsman but watching Sachin bat is as close to perfection as you'll ever find. Especially the Sachin of the 90's, which was wow.
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    True, a Duffer "heh" is like 50 likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnygirl View Post
    Wasim was very injury prone prior to 1990 ,had two operations and Waqar had a slow start like 4 wickets in 4 tests ,both of them were fit and at their best ,during 1990-1996 from what i saw.

    PS : I am not a Tendulkar hater , a huge fan ,but not a blind fan .
    My bad, I though you wrote WI, not W

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    Both of these greats are inimitable ,u cannot find another Viv and another Tendulkar .In terms of pure destruction Viv just tops Tendulkar ,thats it,.

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