Replace the toss with the bid?

[Richard]

No source supports that.

And being a public-editable article, that one crackpot could've put this in, I suppose.

 

[Richard]

Actually, how much of an advantage is winning the toss anyway? Does anyone know the win/draw/loss ratios for tosses won versus those lost?

Look it up yourself if you really want to know.

Mind, TBH I'd imagine you'd do well to break it down. 1877-1899, for instance, then maybe a few others based on various countries and the times they started covering their pitches (Australia sometime in the 1950s, England in 1970, etc.).

Certainly since pitches became uniformly covered I'd not imagine it's been an enormous advantage at all.

 

[silentstriker]

I'd like the visiting team to decide whether to bat or field.

 

[silentstriker]

Since 2000, teams that have won the toss are (W/L/D) 152-146-89. The difference probably is not statistically significant.

 

[Manee]

I think that the bid is a horrible idea.

 

[Richard]

Since 2000, teams that have won the toss are 152-146-89.

W-L-D or W-D-L?

 

[cover drive man]

Stone, paper, scissors clearly the way to go.

Actually, how much of an advantage is winning the toss anyway? Does anyone know the win/draw/loss ratios for tosses won versus those lost?

4th August 2005 2nd test of the ashes series.

 

[cover drive man]

Stone, paper, scissors clearly the way to go.

Actually, how much of an advantage is winning the toss anyway? Does anyone know the win/draw/loss ratios for tosses won versus those lost?

Based on all Test matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Draw Tie
Win toss 34.7% 29.6% 35.6% 0.1%
Lose toss 30.8% 33.6% 35.5% 0.1%

Based on all one-day international matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Tie No Result
Win toss 49.1% 46.9% 0.9% 0.3%
Lose toss 47.3% 48.7% 0.9% 0.3%

 

[Neil Pickup]

Based on all Test matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Draw Tie
Win toss 34.7% 29.6% 35.6% 0.1%
Lose toss 30.8% 33.6% 35.5% 0.1%

Based on all one-day international matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Tie No Result
Win toss 49.1% 46.9% 0.9% 0.3%
Lose toss 47.3% 48.7% 0.9% 0.3%

Hang on... surely the stats for the team losing the toss must be the exact opposite of the team winning the toss.

 

[cover drive man]

Hang on... surely the stats for the team losing the toss must be the exact opposite of the team winning the toss.

Hmm.

 

[Googenheim]

Hang on... surely the stats for the team losing the toss must be the exact opposite of the team winning the toss.

Nah, the stats probably factor in the "Heads I win, Tails you lose" sucker situations as well.

 

[Goughy]

I kinda like the idea. It has no place in real world cricket, but I think it advantages the captain with the best knowledge to know what the right bid would be and not to under or over bid.

 

[tooextracool]

I personally prefer the method of just alternating the toss with the captain from the away playing team getting to choose in the first test. Of course this would probably mean that there would be more 4 test series than 3(or even 2 instead), but Im not against that shift either

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Based on all Test matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Draw Tie
Win toss 34.7% 29.6% 35.6% 0.1%
Lose toss 30.8% 33.6% 35.5% 0.1%

Based on all one-day international matches played up to 27 December, 2006:

Toss result Win Lose Tie No Result
Win toss 49.1% 46.9% 0.9% 0.3%
Lose toss 47.3% 48.7% 0.9% 0.3%

Hang on... surely the stats for the team losing the toss must be the exact opposite of the team winning the toss.

Those are probably the worst stats ever compiled, the ODI's don't even add up to 100%, or did they bid on some of those instead of using the toss.

 

[Son Of Coco]

How? you're team is just as much at risk as the other.

At the end of the game I'd look and go 'Well they won by 15, but were given 30 extra runs so in actual fact the other team won'

 

[Son Of Coco]

Hang on... surely the stats for the team losing the toss must be the exact opposite of the team winning the toss.

I don't think they're being compared to each other in those results though...the percentages are purely for win/loss/draw/etc for those winning the toss, and then the same for those losing the toss. Both add up to 100% horizontally, but not vertically...actually they don't, there's a few percent missing in each one.

Edit: 97.2%....Has anyone seen the other 2.8%? I know at least 2.5 of it was starring in an ad a few years back where an average family had 2.5 children. Sold himself out to the %age sign.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I don't think they're being compared to each other in those results though...the percentages are purely for win/loss/draw/etc for those winning the toss, and then the same for those losing the toss. Both add up to 100% horizontally, but not vertically...actually they don't, there's a few percent missing in each one

 

[unccricket]

they should stick to the toss, like almost every other sport does. OR if you really want to change it up, have a BOWL OUT to decide who "wins the toss"

I love the concept of bowl outs, and I think it should get use other than in deciding a tied t20 match.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

They could even toss a coin to see who bids first

 

[deeps]

Only one thing I'd want the toss replaced with, and that's something that involves cricket skills.

Bowl out!!