Richard
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I didn't give them in that post, I've given them (several times) over the last year.
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Quarterfinals to return in 2011 ICC World Cup
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Football can do whatever it wants, football and cricket are two totally different sports. I don't care in the slightest who plays in and who wins the football World Cup TBH. Apart from the fact that many more teams play football to a high standard than do cricket, there is less of an emphasis (these days at least, don't know how it used to be) on standard when World Cups are under consideration in football than there is in cricket.
I just don't get that at all. Where on Earth does that tie in with anything I said? Yes, indeed, but I've not taken astute note of the qualifying phases to note how bad it was.
Where did I even mention Ireland in that post?
Edged&Taken
U19 Vice-Captain
2011 World Cup Draw
Group A: Australia, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Canada, Kenya
Group B: India, South Africa, England, West Indies, Bangladesh, Ireland, Netherland
super 6 and super 8 stages have been banished
Group A: Australia, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Canada, Kenya
Group B: India, South Africa, England, West Indies, Bangladesh, Ireland, Netherland
super 6 and super 8 stages have been banished
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
This terrible idea is a considerably inferior format to that of the last three Cups. There are going to be one obscene number of games that virtually no-one much wants to watch.
Nonetheless, the last one didn't work out as planned at all. At least this way there's some element of mystery - no-one can be quite sure just what's going to happen here.
Nonetheless, the last one didn't work out as planned at all. At least this way there's some element of mystery - no-one can be quite sure just what's going to happen here.
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Shri
Mr. Glass
Awesome! Back to the uncomplicated good old days of QF, SF and F. Right?
Edged&Taken
U19 Vice-Captain
lets see, teams India and Pakistan dont have to worry about crashing out due to one bad day. as they have enough chances now to make amends
also we may not have a bewildered minnow creeping into the semi-finals as they will have to now produce more then one surprise upset
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Yeah, the good old days where everyone meandered around the subcontinent for weeks on end simply to reduce nine serious contenders to eight. This time we've got yonks where seven serious contenders (unless West Indies solve this issue pretty sharpish) are going to be playing for weeks on end without anything much at stake, a combination of thrashing hopeless teams who are miles behind them and playing matches which only decide who you'll play in the quarters.
This format has all the look of one where virtually nothing is at stake for about 90% of the tournament. The only games with all that much meaning, in all likelihood, will be three of the four quarters, the two semis and the final.
Edged&Taken
U19 Vice-Captain
i think top two go to semis. there is no QF
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
And instead there are even more games between substandard and ODI-standard sides, because the format makes them completely inevitable.
Consider this: of the 21 games in group B, just 3 have the prospect of serious competition between contenders (and it's really stretching credulity even to describe England as that). Of the 21 in A, there'll be just 6. Then there'll be a quarter-final which is a near-formality too. Even these 9 games will decide nothing more than who plays who next.
So of 49 games, just 6 will be games where, really, you can say there's something at stake.
That is, based on the assumption that West Indies remain the effective C-team they presently are.
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Edged&Taken
U19 Vice-Captain
you right. we get to watch SIX canada matches .
cowboysfan
U19 Debutant
it looks like the top 4 teams go through to the knockout stage from each group.
Prince EWS
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Hmm. I could live with this if it went straight to semi-finals after this and didn't go to quarters. It'd give some meaning to the long drawn-out group stages even if there weren't any minnow upsets.
four_or_six
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Would probably be better with only two associates, and then go straight to the semis.
Jamee999
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They never did, interestingly- complete myth that's sprung up as a result of people being pissed off at our success. Ireland had to tie with one test-playing nation and beat another to reach the Super Eights. And hope that Zimbabwe didn't beat Pakistan.
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Magrat Garlick
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Haha, people are still surprised at this? Format change was announced 18 months ago ffs.
Richard
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I didn't click at the time that it's exactly what was involved though.
Still agree precisely with what you said at the time, as I said at the time. Think Stedman was on the money too.
Still agree precisely with what you said at the time, as I said at the time. Think Stedman was on the money too.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
Bringing the QF in is probably an attempt to finally get Australia not winning one. If you have to win three knock-out games it's easier to get a suprise result.