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    Revised County Champions

    Hi all,

    I thought it would be fun to re-calculate the county championships, which have been settled using a variety of means in the past, using 12 points for a win and four for a draw, i.e. the points awarded during 1999, the last time the championship was one division. Note that this meant equalising the number of games played, based on winning percentage, where this was unequal.

    It would seem Kent has been particularly hard done by in the past, gaining an additional five championships using this method. Also, Gloucestershire and Northants would have won once each. Lancashire drop from seven (plus one shared) to only four Championships, including losing three in a five-year period 1926-30.

    Here's the summary (sorry about the formatting, seems I can't insert tables):-

    Team Totals Revised
    Yorkshire 30 (+1 shared) 28 (0 shared)
    Surrey 18 (+1 shared) 17 (0 shared)
    Middlesex 10 (+2 shared) 13 (0 shared)
    Lancs 7 (+1 shared) 4 (0 shared)
    Kent 6 (+1 shared) 11 (0 shared)
    Essex 6 6
    Warwicks 6 5
    Notts 5 6
    Worcs 5 5
    Glam 3 2
    Leics 3 3
    Hants 2 2
    Sussex 2 2
    Derbys 1 1
    Northants 0 1
    Gloucs 0 1

    Here are the revised years:-

    YEAR Champion Revised Champion
    1897 Lancs SURREY
    1899 Surrey MIDDLESEX
    1903 Middlesex YORKSHIRE
    1908 Yorkshire KENT
    1911 Warwicks KENT
    1912 Yorkshire NORTHANTS
    1914 Surrey MIDDLESEX
    1924 Yorkshire MIDDLESEX
    1926 Lancs KENT
    1927 Lancs NOTTS
    1930 Lancs GLOUCESTERSHIRE
    1948 Glam MIDDLESEX
    1949 Mid/Yorks YORKSHIRE
    1950 Lancs/Sry LANCASHIRE
    1967 Yorkshire KENT
    1977 Kent/Mid KENT

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    ITSTL.

    Common consensus suggests bonus-points are a terrible idea. Not 100% sure I agree, but I've not liked any of the formats yet used.

    I'd be interested to see the 1963(?)-1999 tables taken sans-bonus-points completely.
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    Actually I can do that quite easily - watch this space. BTW, what is ITSTL an abbreviation for?

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    Interesting to say the least. Very common around these parts, you might say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Interesting to say the least. Very common around these parts, you might say.
    That acronym has been hunting me for too long. Finally I understand it.

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    Just ask. There's always someone willing to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Just ask. There's always someone willing to tell.
    Cheers , reckon I've got them all now though.

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    Interesting thread...doing the same with footy produces similarly interesting changes actually. I guess you have to consider though that teams play differently in relation to where points will be awarded.

    I actually think bonus points are fair enough given the amount of rain we tend to get...

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    Pretty sure a bit of research has been done (might have been Cricinfo/TWC) into putting a 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw system in place. The differences in the tables were negligible and it would be so much easier to understand.

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    Erm, what happened to Somerset in your calculations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna View Post
    Erm, what happened to Somerset in your calculations?
    no wins before recalculating, no wins after...no point in mentioning them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    no wins before recalculating, no wins after...no point in mentioning them

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    Yeah, LOOOOL at Haakon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    no wins before recalculating, no wins after...no point in mentioning them
    How many wins did they get last year, huh?

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    The calculations chasingthedon has done have only ever run up to 1999, when the Championship was split.

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