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New Look Australia ODI Line Up on the way?

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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
With Gilchrist and Hogg gone, who will fill the gaps, Will Haddin open? Will Bryce McGain's batting warrant him a place in the side? most of the team is the wrong side of 30 (albeit it doesnt mean much these days) and Hayden is 36, he might be gone soon. Post your New Look Aussie ODI Line Up (i.e after Gilly, Hogg, Hayden)

Here's mine

Shane Watson (please don't murder me for saying it, but his form seems good enough)
James Hopes
Ricky Ponting
Michael Clarke
Andrew Symonds
Michael Hussey
David Hussey
Brad Haddin
Brett Lee
Floater (Nathan Hauritz/Mitchell Johnson/Stuart Clark/Bryce McGain/whoever else)
Nathan Bracken

That gives you 8 bowling options in the 11

Watson
Hopes
Clarke
Symonds
D Hussey
Lee
Floater
Bracken

One bowler to short? Too much reliability on Part Timers/All Rounders? You decide
 
chaminda_00

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Future Australian Team IMO:

Hughes, Jaques, Ponting, Clarke, Katich, Haddin, Smith, Henriques, Lee, Hauritz/Bollinger, Bracken, Clark

Can't see that side losing a game tbh.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Merge IMO.

Either way, flabbergasted at people calling for MacGill (who's retired from domestic OD cricket) and McGain to be called in for ODIs. There's next to no chance of either still playing in 2011.
 
bond21

bond21

Banned
Hauritz is not an international spinner.

But it seems in our ODI team we just pick another batsman who can also bowl spin aka Hogg, but Hauritz is not as good as hogg with the bat or ball.

Cullens alright, now that hes stopped trying to bowl medium pace and actually flighting the ball again.

Cullen>Hauritz

That also has something to do with hauritz going to NSW...
 
JBMAC

JBMAC

State Captain
chaminda_00 said:
Future Australian Team IMO:

Hughes, Jaques, Ponting, Clarke, Katich, Haddin, Smith, Henriques, Lee, Hauritz/Bollinger, Bracken, Clark

Can't see that side losing a game tbh.
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So far off the mark it's not funny or maybe it is :laugh:

Hughes too young at present
Jaques.going to be hard enough to hold his Test spot
Katich NO contract with CA won't be called up even if he score trillions
Haddin part time stumper only Ronchi will get the nod
Hauritz poor form,poor season No hope
 
NUFAN

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
dontcloseyoureyes said:
Ronchi is so ****ing overhyped. Plus he's barely any younger than Haddin.
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Yeah agreed. Tim Paine is the one to keep an eye out for.

I'm also hoping Hartley can make runs again, he made 95 the other day, he needs to average 35-40 plus next year to put his name up in contention once again.
 
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silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
JBMAC said:
Hughes too young at present
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He is 19. Seems old enough for most other countries, though I agree that 5 FC and 3 List-A games are nowhere near enough. India went for a young team but it would be dangerous to try to emulate it for an outfit that has been as successful as Australia.

Though the entire Aussie team is getting on in years.
 
Julian87

Julian87

State Captain
Watson
Hayden
Ponting
Clarke
Symonds
Hussey
Haddin
Hopes
Lee
Johnson
Bracken

Hauritz/McGain
Clark
D Hussey

I think if Watson comes in, then the bottom four can be the stock bowlers with Watson, Clarke and Symonds being the part timers. Those placing Haddin at 8 are just wasting him big time. i wouldn't be against him straight swapping with Gilchrist, he'd do a better job than Hopes IMO.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
No-one's suggesting Haddin at eight, but why would he be placed ahead of Symonds or Hussey?

And Hayden will face first if he opens with Watson (cue Cribb Rolleyes).
 
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iamdavid

International Debutant
Although Hopes was very impressive with the bat the other night and had a good tournament with the ball throughout, I'm still not sure what his long term role is going to be or if he even fits into the long term plans. I feel the batting is a little skinny with him at number 7, as his incompetence against spin and on slower wickets was shown up pretty badly in this tournament. And although he bowled well dont know if he is quite good enough to bat at 8 and play virtually as a specialist bowler...But I'd be willing to experiment with that in the short term.

Watson has strung a couple of games of cricket together and performed well, and I feel him and Jaques are the only real contenders to replace Gilchrist at top of the order, Hughes isnt even in the picture (although had he set the U19 world cup alight rather than flopping he may be a lot closer, not that selectors place much emphasis at all on that tournament, but it just showed he has a bit to learn).
I'd recall Watson to open as it gives you another solid bowling option with Hopes at 8.
Hauritz...Doherty...Heal...whoever you want really for the spinner but I probably wouldnt have them in my best XI unless its turning square.

And D Hussey has to be next batsman in line really, I really think he'd be a great asset to the middle order and bring a bit of spark plus his fielding and occasionally bowling would be helpful.
Hodge had his chance and wasted it, has since been surpassed by Hussey in the pecking order, and Katich hopefully never plays ODI's again (although I'd have him next in line for a test berth.)

M Hayden
S Watson
R Ponting
M Clarke
A Symonds
M Hussey
B Haddin
J Hopes
B Lee
M Johnson
N Bracken
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D Hussey
A Seamer (other than Clark or Noffke who arent one day bowlers)
N Hauritz
If they take 15 then probably Jaques, Voges or at long odds a reserve keeper.
 
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social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
IMO, Hopes was incredibly ordinary for a long period in his innings the other night - striking at well under 50 and taking the strike away from Hussey left the latter with everything to do.

On the other hand, his bowling was very good and he looked a far different player against pace

Basically, the jury is out and his place in the batting order is a big question

Watson is a must

Because of injuries, people tend to have forgotten that he was playing excellently in ODIs when last selected (averaging about 40 with bat and less than 30 with ball)

He is the best young bat in Australia, good in the field and can at least fill in with overs if they want to take pressure off his body

I havent watched any domestic cricket in eons but there dont seem to be any young spinners around and it's not worth picking someone just for the sake of it
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
iamdavid said:
Although Hopes was very impressive with the bat the other night and had a good tournament with the ball throughout, I'm still not sure what his long term role is going to be or if he even fits into the long term plans. I feel the batting is a little skinny with him at number 7, as his incompetence against spin and on slower wickets was shown up pretty badly in this tournament. And although he bowled well dont know if he is quite good enough to bat at 8 and play virtually as a specialist bowler...But I'd be willing to experiment with that in the short term.

Watson has strung a couple of games of cricket together and performed well, and I feel him and Jaques are the only real contenders to replace Gilchrist at top of the order, Hughes isnt even in the picture (although had he set the U19 world cup alight rather than flopping he may be a lot closer, not that selectors place much emphasis at all on that tournament, but it just showed he has a bit to learn).
I'd recall Watson to open as it gives you another solid bowling option with Hopes at 8.
Hauritz...Doherty...Heal...whoever you want really for the spinner but I probably wouldnt have them in my best XI unless its turning square.

And D Hussey has to be next batsman in line really, I really think he'd be a great asset to the middle order and bring a bit of spark plus his fielding and occasionally bowling would be helpful.
Hodge had his chance and wasted it, has since been surpassed by Hussey in the pecking order, and Katich hopefully never plays ODI's again (although I'd have him next in line for a test berth.)

M Hayden
S Watson
R Ponting
M Clarke
A Symonds
M Hussey
B Haddin
J Hopes
B Lee
M Johnson
N Bracken
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D Hussey
A Seamer (other than Clark or Noffke who arent one day bowlers)
N Hauritz
If they take 15 then probably Jaques, Voges or at long odds a reserve keeper.
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Watson and Hopes in the same team, ITSTL.

For me, I'd be happiest to leave Watson out - I don't see Hopes as a long-term option - until whichever time Hopes has to go. Obviously, right now Hopes has an unequivocal case for selection. In the meantime, put Hopes in the role you see for Watson - opening batsman and fill-in bowler.

Mind, I'm still far from convinced about Watson as a ODI bowler, though his batting has looked better in recent times. He was absolutely awful for quite a while, and while he's been a bit better of late, still far from outstanding.

With the bat he was extremely ordinary down the order for ages of course, and despite his excellent World Cup (3 not-out innings at strike-rates well over 100) at seven, I'm still far from convinced about him in that position. As an opener, though, he's certainly worth another go.
 
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