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    Vincent gone. NZ cricket to be gone in approx. 2 years

    So, another one goes. Go on, TAKE THEM ALL FFS!!!!

    I am pissed off. Soon NZ cricket will be like Zimbabwe and will have to pull out of international cricket, I predict, by 2011. But we should still be invited to the world cup and should still compete handily with Barbados.

    **** THE ICL!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    So, another one goes. Go on, TAKE THEM ALL FFS!!!!

    I am pissed off. Soon NZ cricket will be like Zimbabwe and will have to pull out of international cricket, I predict, by 2011. But we should still be invited to the world cup and should still compete handily with Barbados.

    **** THE ICL!!!!
    So who is it now that won't be representing because of ICL/IPL?

    Macca, Flem, Astle?, Vincent, Bond.

    Any others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    So, another one goes. Go on, TAKE THEM ALL FFS!!!!

    I am pissed off. Soon NZ cricket will be like Zimbabwe and will have to pull out of international cricket, I predict, by 2011. But we should still be invited to the world cup and should still compete handily with Barbados.
    **** THE ICL!!!!
    So it'll be status quo then?

    Is there any possibility of NZ cricket letting these guys go play ICL, even though it's the rebel league?

    Out of interest, what happened in the u19 semi last night? When I switched off India was 1/20 odd chasing just over 200. There was a young Kiwi all rounder who smashed 'em good in getting 80 odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    There was a young Kiwi all rounder who smashed 'em good in getting 80 odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    So who is it now that won't be representing because of ICL/IPL?

    Macca, Flem, Astle?, Vincent, Bond.

    Any others.
    You don't seem to realise that representing the IPL doesn't mean you can't represent your country still. Players representing the ICL are getting their contracts terminated, etc.

    McMillan and Astle have retired, as has Harris, Cairns and Parore.
    Fleming is going to the IPL after he retires next month.

    The only players who could still conceivably play for NZ but now can't because of the ICL are Andre Adams, Hamish Marshall, Daryl Tuffey, Shane Bond and now Lou Vincent.

    IMO Bond & Vincent are the only real loss.
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    Anyway, this is a bit OTT. It's not like McCullum, Oram, Vettori, Mills or the like have signed for the ICL and thus can't play for NZ.

    The players that have "turned their backs on NZ cricket" by signing with the ICL have had fairly valid reasons.
    Shane Bond wants financial security for himself, since he knows he's injury prone and it's not like he'll be a regular fixture in the Black Caps in the future, also considering he's 32.
    Andre Adams felt he was harshly treated by the selectors, so turned his back. In a way, it's true - I honestly don't think he would've ever played for us again bar an extreme injury list.
    Daryl Tuffey seems to have lost the plot in terms of actually playing cricket. Seems like such a different player now and I think he thought he may not play again.
    Hamish Marshall was more interested in making money than playing for NZ after he was deservedly dropped. I'll be happy never to see him in a Black Cap again.

    I'd be more concerned if the likes of Broom, Nicol, Hay, How, Bell, Fulton, Taylor, Franklin, Martin, Mills, Gillespie, Southee, Todd, Cumming, Redmond, N McCullum and B Martin were to sign for the ICL.

    As it stands, players who are nowhere near the current XI's (bar Bond) are signing for the ICL, so it isn't THAT BAD.

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    I honestly don't think we'll miss Vincent at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    I honestly don't think we'll miss Vincent at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    You don't seem to realise that representing the IPL doesn't mean you can't represent your country still. Players representing the ICL are getting their contracts terminated, etc.

    McMillan and Astle have retired, as has Harris, Cairns and Parore.
    Fleming is going to the IPL after he retires next month.

    The only players who could still conceivably play for NZ but now can't because of the ICL are Andre Adams, Hamish Marshall, Daryl Tuffey, Shane Bond and now Lou Vincent.

    IMO Bond & Vincent are the only real loss.
    It doesn't mean you can't represent your country, but it sometimes accelerates the decision to retire, when otherwise chaps may have played on. That was more what I was getting at with respect to IPL. Gilchrist and Fleming are cases in point.

    It's sad to see.

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    Not a big loss, however the disregard in which these players hold their Contracts is disgusting.
    Who will be next? I'm looking at either Sinclair or Mills (both due to jealousy and Mills especially because his brother will be able to hook him up with a sweet deal.)
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    NZC needs to find a way to keep the players in and weigh up the balance of annoying the BCCI or losing NZC altogether. It is quite hard as BCCI provides the money to keep NZC running - maybe the government can bail us out like the America's Cup boat.

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    Good on Vincent for going IMO, he's got awful treatment from NZC throughout his career, and has he got any support during his battle with depression? NZC seem to want to do everything for Ryder, but does Vincent get a look in? Appears not.

    Vincent has a young family, and appears to no longer be in the thoughts of the NZ selectors.

    My favourite player of the modern age, and good on him I say. A great bloke from my very brief dealings with him, always willing for a photo and autographs. He'd be great in a public relations role.
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    Tbh I doubt he will be missed very much, never been much kop if you ask me.

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