Best All Time Test XII

Dingo · 17-02-2002, 01:45 AM

Just because I like to stir up controversy...

I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is their best all-time Test XII. Any player from any country who has played Test cricket can be named in your XII. You don't have to make assumptions about the pitch, location, weather, etc.

For starters, here's my best XII:

Sir Len Hutton (vc)
William Ponsford
Sir Walter Hammond
Sir Don Bradman (c)
Sir Viv Richards
Graeme Pollock
Sir Garry Sobers
Keith Miller
Rod Marsh+
Sydney Barnes
Curtly Ambrose
Dennis Lillee (12th Man)

Three of Wisden's best five of the last century are named, as are five players with knighthoods. Jack Hobbs and Shane Warne are the two from Wisden's who are missing.

sean · 17-02-2002, 02:58 AM

I'd agree - probably not Marsh as keeper. I reckon Gilly might turn out as the best keeper/batsman ever, but at the moment I'd have Heals in there. Alec Stewart might get a sympathy vote from me too

I'd have Walsh in there too. Shane Warne is just a fat prick - I hate him. I cannot understand why he gets picked in all these sides when truly great spinners are left out - Grimmet, O'Reilly.

[Edited on 2/17/02 by sean]

19-02-2002, 12:37 PM

This is a world XII out of a book I have so if you don't like it then don't blame me!

1. Jack Hobbs
2. Barry Richards
3. Sir Viv Richards
4. Sir Donald Bradman
5. Sachin Tendulkar
6. Sir Gary Sobers
7. Ian Botham
8. Alan Knott
9. Shane Warne
10. Dennis Lillee
11. Sydney Barnes
12. Sir Len Hutton

REMEMBER I didn't pick this team, it was the book!

sunburnt_spinner · 03-03-2002, 10:03 PM

The great thing about this kinda stuff is that everyone has their own opinions. My team is based on the fact that I have only included players I have seen in my life (born in 1977).

Greenidge
Boon
Richards
Tendulkar
Border
S.Waugh
Ian Botham
Sir Richard Hadlee
Ian Healy
Malcolm Marshall
Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan

Greendige gets the nod ahead of Gooch due to the flip of a coin. David Boon, toughest bloke that played. Tendulkar is the best batsman in the world at present. Allan Border much like Steve Waugh would be batsman who you would have bat if your life depended on it. Botham and Hadlee need no introduction. Healy was the best keeper that ever played, Gilchrist might be a better bat but his keeping is dodgy. Malcolm Marshall was named by many as the toughest of the 80's Windies quicks to face. And depending on the track you can go whichever way you like with the last two. McGrath the best seamer in the last 10 years and Murali ahead of Warne (even though he chucks) because his record is awesome.

05-03-2002, 09:53 AM

Got to say, that's a better team than mine.

schak82 · 19-03-2002, 07:05 PM

Hey what about VIV?

If I was chosing it I would choose:

S. Gavaskar
G. Greenidge
D. Bradman
S. Tendulkar
I. Richards (viv)
G. Sobers
A. Gilchrist
J. Laker
W. Younis
K. Dev
G. McGrath

Paul · 21-03-2002, 01:11 PM

How come you've got Viv Richards so far down the order, he's an opening batsmen is he not?

Neil Pickup · 21-03-2002, 02:30 PM

Well, the first test that I can remember would be the England-India series of 1991 where Gooch got his 333 so.. (this is players when they were at their peaks)

1 Gordon Greenidge
2 Mark Taylor
3 Brian Lara
4 Sachin Tendulkar
5 Andy Flower (wkt)
6 Steven Waugh (capt)
7 Jacques Kallis
8 Shane Warne
9 Muttiah Muralitharan
10 Courtney Walsh
11 Curtly Ambrose
12 Jonty Rhodes (he'll come on to field if he plays, and who can catch better?)

Sudeep · 21-03-2002, 06:07 PM

--Sir Len Hutton
--Sunil Gavaskar
--Sir Don Bradman
--Sachin Tendulkar
--Sir Viv Richards
--Brian Lara
--Adam Gilchrist
--Kapil Dev
--Shane Warne/M. Muralitharan
--Wasim Akram
--Sir Richard Hadlee
--Jonty Rhodes (12th Man)

[Edited on 3/21/02 by Sudeep Popat]

Paul · 26-03-2002, 10:21 AM

I never realised Wasim Akram was so popular in people's eyes. Hey Neil, how come you haven't got Sir Don Bradman, he was a living legend, a magician with a bat instead of a wand.

Neil Pickup · 27-03-2002, 10:30 AM

It was for my lifetime

Paul · 29-03-2002, 06:05 AM

Ok, sorry.

Neil Pickup · 29-03-2002, 02:09 PM

Maybe Allan Border in for Steven Waugh.

a massive zebra · 11-05-2004, 06:12 PM

Jack Hobbs
Sunny Gavaskar
Don Bradman (cpt)
Graeme Pollock
Walter Hammond
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist (wk)
Imran Khan
Malcolm Marshall
Muttiah Muralitharan
Sydney Barnes

Jonty Rhodes

krkode · 11-05-2004, 06:42 PM

Virender Sehwag
Parthiv Patel (wk)
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
VVS Laxman
Saurav Ganguly (c)
Yuvraj Singh
Ashish Nehra
Zaheer Khan
Anil Kumble
Irfan Pathan
Donald Bradman (12th man)

Just because I like to stir up controversy...

17-02-2002, 01:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dingo School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: . Posts: 96	Best All Time Test XII Just because I like to stir up controversy... I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is their best all-time Test XII. Any player from any country who has played Test cricket can be named in your XII. You don't have to make assumptions about the pitch, location, weather, etc. For starters, here's my best XII: Sir Len Hutton (vc) William Ponsford Sir Walter Hammond Sir Don Bradman (c) Sir Viv Richards Graeme Pollock Sir Garry Sobers Keith Miller Rod Marsh+ Sydney Barnes Curtly Ambrose Dennis Lillee (12th Man) Three of Wisden's best five of the last century are named, as are five players with knighthoods. Jack Hobbs and Shane Warne are the two from Wisden's who are missing.

03-03-2002, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
sunburnt_spinner Cricket Spectator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Logan Village, Queensland, Australia Posts: 18	The great thing about this kinda stuff is that everyone has their own opinions. My team is based on the fact that I have only included players I have seen in my life (born in 1977). Greenidge Boon Richards Tendulkar Border S.Waugh Ian Botham Sir Richard Hadlee Ian Healy Malcolm Marshall Glenn McGrath Muttiah Muralitharan Greendige gets the nod ahead of Gooch due to the flip of a coin. David Boon, toughest bloke that played. Tendulkar is the best batsman in the world at present. Allan Border much like Steve Waugh would be batsman who you would have bat if your life depended on it. Botham and Hadlee need no introduction. Healy was the best keeper that ever played, Gilchrist might be a better bat but his keeping is dodgy. Malcolm Marshall was named by many as the toughest of the 80's Windies quicks to face. And depending on the track you can go whichever way you like with the last two. McGrath the best seamer in the last 10 years and Murali ahead of Warne (even though he chucks) because his record is awesome. __________________ Navjot Sidhu has an obsession with opening cans of beans.

19-03-2002, 07:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
schak82 Cricket Spectator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 7	Hey what about VIV? If I was chosing it I would choose: S. Gavaskar G. Greenidge D. Bradman S. Tendulkar I. Richards (viv) G. Sobers A. Gilchrist J. Laker W. Younis K. Dev G. McGrath __________________ SCHAK

21-03-2002, 01:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paul U19 Cricketer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, England Posts: 459	How come you've got Viv Richards so far down the order, he's an opening batsmen is he not? __________________ There's only one Darren Gough!

21-03-2002, 02:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	Well, the first test that I can remember would be the England-India series of 1991 where Gooch got his 333 so.. (this is players when they were at their peaks) 1 Gordon Greenidge 2 Mark Taylor 3 Brian Lara 4 Sachin Tendulkar 5 Andy Flower (wkt) 6 Steven Waugh (capt) 7 Jacques Kallis 8 Shane Warne 9 Muttiah Muralitharan 10 Courtney Walsh 11 Curtly Ambrose 12 Jonty Rhodes (he'll come on to field if he plays, and who can catch better?) __________________ MSN Messenger: minardineil2000 at hotmail dot com \| AAAS Chairman CricketWeb Black \| CricketWeb XI Captain ClarkeWatch: We're Watching Rikki - Are You? Up The Grecians - Exeter City FC Completing the Square: My Cricket Web Blog

17-02-2002, 02:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
sean School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 177	I'd agree - probably not Marsh as keeper. I reckon Gilly might turn out as the best keeper/batsman ever, but at the moment I'd have Heals in there. Alec Stewart might get a sympathy vote from me too I'd have Walsh in there too. Shane Warne is just a fat prick - I hate him. I cannot understand why he gets picked in all these sides when truly great spinners are left out - Grimmet, O'Reilly. [Edited on 2/17/02 by sean]

19-02-2002, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	This is a world XII out of a book I have so if you don't like it then don't blame me! 1. Jack Hobbs 2. Barry Richards 3. Sir Viv Richards 4. Sir Donald Bradman 5. Sachin Tendulkar 6. Sir Gary Sobers 7. Ian Botham 8. Alan Knott 9. Shane Warne 10. Dennis Lillee 11. Sydney Barnes 12. Sir Len Hutton REMEMBER I didn't pick this team, it was the book!

05-03-2002, 09:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Got to say, that's a better team than mine.

21-03-2002, 06:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sudeep International Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chandler, AZ, USA Posts: 7,282	--Sir Len Hutton --Sunil Gavaskar --Sir Don Bradman --Sachin Tendulkar --Sir Viv Richards --Brian Lara --Adam Gilchrist --Kapil Dev --Shane Warne/M. Muralitharan --Wasim Akram --Sir Richard Hadlee --Jonty Rhodes (12th Man) [Edited on 3/21/02 by Sudeep Popat] __________________ "The optimum human population of earth is zero." - Dave Foreman

26-03-2002, 10:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Paul U19 Cricketer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, England Posts: 459	I never realised Wasim Akram was so popular in people's eyes. Hey Neil, how come you haven't got Sir Don Bradman, he was a living legend, a magician with a bat instead of a wand.

27-03-2002, 10:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	It was for my lifetime

29-03-2002, 06:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Paul U19 Cricketer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lincolnshire, England Posts: 459	Ok, sorry.

29-03-2002, 02:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	Maybe Allan Border in for Steven Waugh.

11-05-2004, 06:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
a massive zebra International Debutant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on my ass @ the PC Posts: 2,775	Jack Hobbs Sunny Gavaskar Don Bradman (cpt) Graeme Pollock Walter Hammond Garry Sobers Adam Gilchrist (wk) Imran Khan Malcolm Marshall Muttiah Muralitharan Sydney Barnes Jonty Rhodes __________________ THE ULTIMATE CRICKET WEB ARCADE EGGS CHAMPION RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1990-2006 RIP Craig Walsh (AKA "Craig"), 1985-2012

11-05-2004, 06:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
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